Discrimination Case with DWP wins £400K
Discrimination Case with DWP wins £400K
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Burwood

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18,718 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51620990

I accept it's outrageous, treating anyone like this but we aren't in the US and what basis is there to award such a sum. It's bonkers. She wasn't the CEO. The judge has essentially told her she can have 20 years income in one swoop.

T6 vanman

3,433 posts

123 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Complainent joined the DWP branch in Caerphilly as a full-time administrative officer in 2017,
Complainent went on sick leave in March 2017 and was unlawfully dismissed in October that year for being unable to return to work,

Complainent wins Brusey bonus payment of £400k in 2020

My CV is being drafted to DWP now smile

vaud

58,193 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Loss of future earning potential may be part of it, given they kiboshed her DWP career.

amusingduck

9,649 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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It doesn't seem that the people involved have been sacked or prosecuted?

Why the fk not?

It's completely unacceptable to just dish out £400k and consider it job jobbed. Get rid of the fking scum that caused the £400k liability at the absolute least.

kev1974

4,030 posts

153 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Ker-ching!

So she joined the department in 2017
By all accounts got treated really rather badly by other staff
Went on sick leave in March 2017
Dismissed in October 2017.

So at most did about 10 weeks work (or showed up for 10 weeks anyway) and it's cost the taxpayer £386,000.

But according to that story none of the other staff have been disciplined despite costing us £386,000.

Does seem to be an extraordinarily high payout for a paperwork shuffler.


sociopath

3,433 posts

90 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Unless you've worked in the public sector, you have no idea how bad it can be.
It's like the eastern block in the 60s, tinpot dictators, the stasi and the politburo rolled into one.

If they take a dislike to you, you're screwed. Good luck to her.

hutchst

3,727 posts

120 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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vaud said:
Loss of future earning potential may be part of it, given they kiboshed her DWP career.
She's 59

Burwood

Original Poster:

18,718 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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amusingduck said:
It doesn't seem that the people involved have been sacked or prosecuted?

Why the fk not?

It's completely unacceptable to just dish out £400k and consider it job jobbed. Get rid of the fking scum that caused the £400k liability at the absolute least.
It's gross misconduct. Her 'bosses' who failed to deal with the grievance should be sacked.

geeks

11,213 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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hutchst said:
vaud said:
Loss of future earning potential may be part of it, given they kiboshed her DWP career.
She's 59
So?

vaud

58,193 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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hutchst said:
She's 59
Your point being? Her retirement age would be 67, so that is 8 years of potentially lower earnings (well would be measured from 2017, so more like 12 years)

Employment tribunals look at the future impact as well as the past loss.

Fastchas

2,803 posts

145 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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sociopath said:
Unless you've worked in the public sector, you have no idea how bad it can be.
It's like the eastern block in the 60s, tinpot dictators, the stasi and the politburo rolled into one.

If they take a dislike to you, you're screwed. Good luck to her.
This is complete bks

sociopath

3,433 posts

90 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Fastchas said:
sociopath said:
Unless you've worked in the public sector, you have no idea how bad it can be.
It's like the eastern block in the 60s, tinpot dictators, the stasi and the politburo rolled into one.

If they take a dislike to you, you're screwed. Good luck to her.
This is complete bks
Which bit?

If you disagree I suspect you're one of the guilty ones.
Are you a union rep by any chance?

Electro1980

8,934 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Fastchas said:
sociopath said:
Unless you've worked in the public sector, you have no idea how bad it can be.
It's like the eastern block in the 60s, tinpot dictators, the stasi and the politburo rolled into one.

If they take a dislike to you, you're screwed. Good luck to her.
This is complete bks
This. It is no more true than saying every private company is a haven for psychopaths and discard people for pennies in profit. Yes, I work in the public sector, and have done in various state and education organisations for 20 years. No, I have never been part of a union (well, appart from the first month at the council where I was auto enrolled, u TIL I told them to stop).

samwilliams

836 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Look here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5e5... - if you want to see exactly how they came to the figure. The calculations are at the back.

Vanden Saab

17,449 posts

98 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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geeks said:
hutchst said:
vaud said:
Loss of future earning potential may be part of it, given they kiboshed her DWP career.
She's 59
So?
£50,000 a year for an admin assistant in Wales...

geeks

11,213 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Vanden Saab said:
geeks said:
hutchst said:
vaud said:
Loss of future earning potential may be part of it, given they kiboshed her DWP career.
She's 59
So?
£50,000 a year for an admin assistant in Wales...
I have no idea how you arrived that particular conclusion, nor how that factors into the fact she is 59...

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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samwilliams said:
Look here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5e5... - if you want to see exactly how they came to the figure. The calculations are at the back.
Total Award after Grossing up at 40% £386,059.73
Am assuming that the slightly open handed payout is taxable, so this is just throwing money from DWP to HMRC, yes?

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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samwilliams said:
Look here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5e5... - if you want to see exactly how they came to the figure. The calculations are at the back.
Thanks smile

I do wonder what people would consider a "fair" sum for enduring that sort of abuse.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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My daughter once worked in DWP. It was almost full of little Hitlers, frequently screaming at junior staff for minor infractions of processes even before training sessions had been attended. Fear rules and more than a few managers made life a misery for newbies. Daughter left and went to work in a women's prison. That was remarkably different and progressive. DWP is hell.

LimSlip

800 posts

78 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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geeks said:
I have no idea how you arrived that particular conclusion, nor how that factors into the fact she is 59...
She has 7 years before reaching retirement age (assuming 66 yo), 386,000/7 = 55k/year until retirement if she does nothing at all until then.