When are airlines likely to start flying again?

[Ayahuasca]

And this is a piece of string...

Need to balance the benefits of not having incoming CV19 carriers, with the negative consequences of grounding fleets (Airlines going bust).

Any guesses?


Once a certain saturation point is reached, I imagine the benefits of no flights is very marginal.

[FN2TypeR]

Have they stopped, for the most part?

[hutchst]

Yes. Only the Middle Eastern carriers (Emirates/Qatar/Etihad) still carrying on regardless, and they are just about to shut down for a while.

[V8FGO]

FN2TypeR said:

Have they stopped, for the most part?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1242376531508432897/photo/1

I've been trying to get a flight to Norway for next week. KLM are showing no flights from Amsterdam, I can get to Amsterdam from Manchester but no further plus it seems they are opening closing different flights each day. SAS also I can get to Copenhagen then no onward connection, possible flights to Oslo not sure.

[vaud]

September if we get lucky for limited screened travellers. Otherwise, Jan. (my opinion)

[towser44]

Still plenty of planes flying into Manchester, albeit not as many as the normal and they are closing 2 of the 3 terminals tomorrow. A Ryanair from Madrid of all places came over my house on the way in today. A couple who my sister knows have a second home in Spain and they are out there at the moment desperately trying to get back, they are currently booked on a flight coming back in early April (it was the earliest they could get when they booked over a week ago).

[FN2TypeR]

V8FGO said:

FN2TypeR said:

Have they stopped, for the most part?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1242376531508432897/photo/1

I've been trying to get a flight to Norway for next week. KLM are showing no flights from Amsterdam, I can get to Amsterdam from Manchester but no further plus it seems they are opening closing different flights each day. SAS also I can get to Copenhagen then no onward connection, possible flights to Oslo not sure.

A quick look at the arrivals website for Heathrow paints a different picture based on a more global consideration I'm afraid

[dazwalsh]

I'm guessing it's fairly certain my flights to croatia and back at the end of may are bound to be cancelled?

[bristolbaron]

How will the governments be able to disburse their chemtrails?

I can’t see regular flying/holidays abroad happening again this year.

[m3jappa]

vaud said:

September if we get lucky for limited screened travellers. Otherwise, Jan. (my opinion)

Id be genuinely surprised if it was January. I really dont know but if its January then i doubt many air lines will actually exist.

[dandarez]

Just watched a family of Brits still stuck in Thailand. No flights for them... ah yes there are, if they pay £2+k 'each'.
Wouldn't want to be in their shoes at this moment.

[don'tbesilly]

FN2TypeR said:

V8FGO said:

FN2TypeR said:

Have they stopped, for the most part?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1242376531508432897/photo/1

I've been trying to get a flight to Norway for next week. KLM are showing no flights from Amsterdam, I can get to Amsterdam from Manchester but no further plus it seems they are opening closing different flights each day. SAS also I can get to Copenhagen then no onward connection, possible flights to Oslo not sure.

A quick look at the arrivals website for Heathrow paints a different picture based on a more global consideration I'm afraid

The vast majority at Gatwick are cancelled (incoming).

Departures are predominantly "Enquire Airline", very few are leaving.

https://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/

Edited by don'tbesilly on Tuesday 24th March 23:22

[Ayahuasca]

vaud said:

September if we get lucky for limited screened travellers. Otherwise, Jan. (my opinion)

Doubt it. There would be no airlines left, pilots would all need to be retrained, and there would be little benefit to grounding them that long.

[tgr]

July, provided origin and destination countries have agreed on free movement in view of the state of Covid contamination

[vaud]

Ayahuasca said:

Doubt it. There would be no airlines left, pilots would all need to be retrained, and there would be little benefit to grounding them that long.

Waivers can be provided by the authorities on training.

We are not returning to BAU (and I am not an alarmist). Not all airlines will survive this. The state owned flag carriers and a few others. Emirates and BA for example will survive in some form.

[hidetheelephants]

V8FGO said:

FN2TypeR said:

Have they stopped, for the most part?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1242376531508432897/photo/1

I've been trying to get a flight to Norway for next week. KLM are showing no flights from Amsterdam, I can get to Amsterdam from Manchester but no further plus it seems they are opening closing different flights each day. SAS also I can get to Copenhagen then no onward connection, possible flights to Oslo not sure.

Isn't Norway applying a 14 day quarantine to arrivals? That may have persuaded airlines to cancel flights for a while.

[Puddenchucker]

I wouldn't be surprised if many countries insist on arriving travellers having a Covid-19 test and being quarantined for a day or two until the results are known, before being allowed into the general population.

[vaud]

Puddenchucker said:

I wouldn't be surprised if many countries insist on arriving travellers having a Covid-19 test and being quarantined for a day or two until the results are known, before being allowed into the general population.

When the antibody test becomes available it will be like a pregnancy test; near immediate results as I understand it.

[Thales]

Puddenchucker said:

I wouldn't be surprised if many countries insist on arriving travellers having a Covid-19 test and being quarantined for a day or two until the results are known, before being allowed into the general population.

Doubt it, they haven't been doing that so far.

[Hereward]

don'tbesilly said:

The vast majority at Gatwick are cancelled (incoming).

Departures are predominantly "Enquire Airline", very few are leaving.

https://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/

I live on the LGW departures flight path and it's eerily quiet. Shame because I am stuck at home and the weather is ideal for plane spotting. Hasn't been this quiet since the ash cloud and that was only for a few days.