Trades Still Able To Work In 'Lockdown'
Trades Still Able To Work In 'Lockdown'
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cologne2792

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2,150 posts

150 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Saw this today and it got me thinking:

How many self employed, that are able to conform with social distancing, are still working and will they be excluded from financial help in June?







pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh

SamR380

737 posts

144 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Whether a self employed person is working or not is not a factor in their eligibilty for the hand out.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

124 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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pequod said:
The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh
Our local town market went ahead over the weekend as well - the organsisers had set out benches in front of the stalls to keep distance between them, and all payment was via card/contactless only. Plenty of one-man traders or those who live and work together able to sell fresh fruit and veg, fresh bread etc without needing to break the rules. In that respect I can't see how a takeaway food van is any different.

lampchair

6,020 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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If window cleaners could claim a % of their past tax as support payments they’d be fked hehe

cologne2792

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Tuesday 31st March 2020
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lampchair said:
If window cleaners could claim a % of their past tax as support payments they’d be fked hehe
Some, yes.

Teddy Lop

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91 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I've got a few bits on, building sites (quite low attendance 2 or 3 onsite) and I do a fair of garden lighting.

Although in general many customers are either distancing and don't want work done or with the uncertainty aren't making plans. The after effects of this will likely be worse than the lockdown itself, for me and many in my game.

As for the govm. assistance, I'll believe I'm getting anything when its sat in my account! (The whole "you might get something in 2 months" approach is pretty foolish if the idea is to stop you going out today...)

moles

1,849 posts

268 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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They all entitled to it as long as they had less than £50k profit last year. And yes they still allowed to work.
My mates self employed heating fitters are still full with work and will be getting £7.5k in June they got over £20k in their bank accounts as well and don’t even need it.

It’s a joke how it’s been done and we will all be paying for it for years to come.

My wife’s a nurse and doesn’t even get £2.5k a month and is risking everything.

The whole country should have been on a basic wage say £300 each person a month for food and everything else council tax mortgages and utility bills suspended for the duration.
As it is some can carry on as normal some are going to loose everything and others are carrying on with their wage but are front loaded with massive risk.

Edited by moles on Tuesday 31st March 15:44

cologne2792

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Tuesday 31st March 2020
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SamR380 said:
Whether a self employed person is working or not is not a factor in their eligibilty for the hand out.
I'm just wondering if at some point the Government will turn round to certain trades and point out that they never actually said they couldn't continue working?

I don't wish to cast doubt on governmental motives as I realise the uniqueness and seriousness of the situation and that any help offered to the self employed is, in itself groundbreaking.



Driver101

14,451 posts

145 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Our gardener called off last week. We were surprised as he is excluded and he would have been left on his own to do the work. His choice if he doesn't feel safe.

I think there is an arguement for having many trades for emergency reasons. How you can control that fairly isn't so obvious.

I wouldn't be using people to carry out things like bathroom or kitchen replacements. Most tradesman like that will be massively down on work I would imagine.

pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Shakermaker said:
pequod said:
The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh
Our local town market went ahead over the weekend as well - the organsisers had set out benches in front of the stalls to keep distance between them, and all payment was via card/contactless only. Plenty of one-man traders or those who live and work together able to sell fresh fruit and veg, fresh bread etc without needing to break the rules. In that respect I can't see how a takeaway food van is any different.
Would be fine if his van was parked within walking distance not requiring customers to make a non-essential car journey!

Gareth79

8,776 posts

270 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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pequod said:
Shakermaker said:
pequod said:
The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh
Our local town market went ahead over the weekend as well - the organsisers had set out benches in front of the stalls to keep distance between them, and all payment was via card/contactless only. Plenty of one-man traders or those who live and work together able to sell fresh fruit and veg, fresh bread etc without needing to break the rules. In that respect I can't see how a takeaway food van is any different.
Would be fine if his van was parked within walking distance not requiring customers to make a non-essential car journey!
The law doesn't distinguish between essential or non-essential car journeys (or any other sort of journey) so long as it's for one of the permitted purposes.

pequod

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162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Gareth79 said:
The law doesn't distinguish between essential or non-essential car journeys (or any other sort of journey) so long as it's for one of the permitted purposes.
Avoiding the ongoing debate about what is/is not essential car trips, I think he is missing a massive business opportunity. His business premises is mobile and he knows his regular customer base so why not operate like an Ice Cream van and let people walk to him to buy the kebabs (which are, I'm told, the best in the area!). Could even have a jingle? Any music suggestions I could pass on to him??

Jasandjules

72,034 posts

253 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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pequod said:
Avoiding the ongoing debate about what is/is not essential car trips, I think he is missing a massive business opportunity. His business premises is mobile and he knows his regular customer base so why not operate like an Ice Cream van and let people walk to him to buy the kebabs (which are, I'm told, the best in the area!). Could even have a jingle? Any music suggestions I could pass on to him??
We have a chip van here who comes to each street on a specific night and rings the bell...... I bet he is making a fortune.

over_the_hill

3,287 posts

270 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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pequod said:
Gareth79 said:
The law doesn't distinguish between essential or non-essential car journeys (or any other sort of journey) so long as it's for one of the permitted purposes.
Avoiding the ongoing debate about what is/is not essential car trips, I think he is missing a massive business opportunity. His business premises is mobile and he knows his regular customer base so why not operate like an Ice Cream van and let people walk to him to buy the kebabs (which are, I'm told, the best in the area!). Could even have a jingle? Any music suggestions I could pass on to him??
Throw some extra lettuce on and he could play Green (s)Leaves


pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Jasandjules said:
pequod said:
Avoiding the ongoing debate about what is/is not essential car trips, I think he is missing a massive business opportunity. His business premises is mobile and he knows his regular customer base so why not operate like an Ice Cream van and let people walk to him to buy the kebabs (which are, I'm told, the best in the area!). Could even have a jingle? Any music suggestions I could pass on to him??
We have a chip van here who comes to each street on a specific night and rings the bell...... I bet he is making a fortune.
Indeed, there used to be one where I lived previously in a more remote area. Was very popular.

Budflicker

3,799 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Sky are still sending service and installation engineers out to 8-10 different homes per day installing and repairing Sky TV.

That's 40 to 50 living rooms that engineer will be in handling the remote controls etc per week per engineer.

Think of the possible chains of infection that could create.


I do pretty much the same job but on communal systems in blocks of flats and after my business partner came down with what looks like Covid-19 last weekend I've decided that the risks outweigh the benefits for me, my family and my own anxiety levels just to keep Sky TV working.

I'm staying home with the family for now.

Not getting any money from the government so just going to rely on my savings for now.

psi310398

10,706 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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pequod said:
The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh
If the food poisoning I got from the death burger van I frequented as an undergraduate is anything to go by, CV-19 would be a merciful release in comparison...

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

241 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I posted about this yesterday but it seems relevant to this discussion.

Last week the police told our dog walker that she couldn't walk our dog yesterday they said she could so long as she wore gloves and used her own lead.


pequod

8,997 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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psi310398 said:
pequod said:
The local kebab van was doing brisk business around these parts last night, and is apparently within the permitted businesses according to Ali the owner!! laugh
If the food poisoning I got from the death burger van I frequented as an undergraduate is anything to go by, CV-19 would be a merciful release in comparison...
We've all been there, rite of passage?