Navy submarine party
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MB140

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4,853 posts

127 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-52406342

What the actual fook. Do people not realise they were living in a submarine prior to returning for repairs. We’re kept in isolation during repairs and will go back together as a crew once the repairs are complete.

I would imagine it’s extremely difficult to socially isolate by 2m from each other in a fking submarine.

Complete none news. As far as I am concerned. If they spend months under the he water protecting us then they can darn well have a few beers whilst there on shore ‘IN ISOLATION’.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

82 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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I wouldn't have a problem with them having a little party if done in a suitably safe manner. They've been cooped up; some sunshine & destress would be good for them.

I think the question is whether it's a good look when the country is in lockdown. Those who can't/won't think about it will get jealous that others party whilst they're having to undergo 'quarantine'. It's not about fact so much as perception.

donutsina911

1,049 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Agree, but think the issue is that the CO asked for approval, got none and cracked on regardless. Was only going to end one way...

MB140

Original Poster:

4,853 posts

127 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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donutsina911 said:
Agree, but think the issue is that the CO asked for approval, got none and cracked on regardless. Was only going to end one way...
I would have thought that as the captain of a Navy nuclear submarine (not an easy job to get), it would be within his remit to decide if his crew can have a few beers anyway.

If he asked but they couldn’t be arsed to respond then taking it under his own command decision shouldn’t be leading to this. I can’t imagine it’s cheap to train a nuclear submarine captain. What a waste.

Court_S

14,613 posts

201 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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I agree OP.

My brother in law is an electrical engineer on subs, so I’ve got a pretty good idea of what it’s like for them.

Another family member flies for the RAF...if people knew about sone of the stuff they get up to whilst flying it would blow the minds of the terminally outraged.

Whilst I agree that it may not be the best ‘look’ at the moment, when did everybody lose the ability to engage their brains before jumping up and down (I.e. these guys can’t distance because of their working environment)?

TheRainMaker

7,716 posts

266 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Shouldn’t even be news, it’s a total joke.

There is no way the captain would have ever put the boat in any danger, and he is letting the crew relax.


Tankrizzo

7,949 posts

217 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Surely if we're letting doctors and nurses rehearse dances and jump around together on TikTok then there should be no action taken against the captain either?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

308 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Flipping eck. I hope they send Capn back with more coals and some burgers.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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How fking ridiculous rolleyes


Who me ?

7,455 posts

236 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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TheRainMaker said:
Shouldn’t even be news, it’s a total joke.

There is no way the captain would have ever put the boat in any danger, and he is letting the crew relax.
Couple of hundred years ago an admiral would be dispatched swiftly to give the Captain an award or similar.

Triumph Man

9,467 posts

192 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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The crew having a relaxing time now - amongst their own - their household if you like - will be far more efficient, motivated and focussed when back on the boat. I know I'd need a bit of a blow out if I spent any time on a submersible tin can.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

160 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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What a total non story.

The biggest lesson (as usual) is not to film things and put them on social media for the outraged to find.

Cold

16,456 posts

114 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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It's not the party that is being scrutinised here and it's important to this story to acknowledge that.

It's the accusation of public and wilful ignoring of orders from a superior in front of the crew that is being investigated.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/78a4dc04-859a-1...

Article said:
In one clip, Commander Lewis appeared to be talking on the phone while members of his crew stood around him looking on in silence, erupting into cheers once he ended the call. A source said that the captain had been speaking to his boss, a commodore, in the clip.

A dim view is said to have been taken of the clip, which purportedly shows a senior officer undermining the authority of a superior in front of a number of personnel. It is also claimed that, in an attempt to evade the strict letter of the alleged instructions not to hold a social event on the dockyard, the makeshift DJ booth was set up on top of casing.

donutsina911

1,049 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Cold said:
It's not the party that is being scrutinised here and it's important to this story to acknowledge that.

It's the accusation of public and wilful ignoring of orders from a superior in front of the crew that is being investigated.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/78a4dc04-859a-1...

Article said:
In one clip, Commander Lewis appeared to be talking on the phone while members of his crew stood around him looking on in silence, erupting into cheers once he ended the call. A source said that the captain had been speaking to his boss, a commodore, in the clip.

A dim view is said to have been taken of the clip, which purportedly shows a senior officer undermining the authority of a superior in front of a number of personnel. It is also claimed that, in an attempt to evade the strict letter of the alleged instructions not to hold a social event on the dockyard, the makeshift DJ booth was set up on top of casing.
Which is exactly what I said in post 3 of the thread.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

200 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Oh look, the BBC trying to whip up anger against servicemen.

tangerine_sedge

6,255 posts

242 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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ReverendCounter said:
Oh look, the BBC trying to whip up anger against servicemen.
Don't forget The Times and pretty much every media outlet in the country, so not really just a BBC thing...

Type R Tom

4,258 posts

173 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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What surprises me is that a group of guys who are used to keeping secrets can be stupid enough to film something and let it get out.

Deerfoot

5,175 posts

208 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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Article said:
... the makeshift DJ booth was set up on top of casing.
It was my privilege to serve the final 2 years of my 24 year Army career with a Naval Air Squadron.

The Royal Navy are utterly fantastic at improvisation when it comes to entertainment and parties.

BZ to all involved.

Plymo

1,238 posts

113 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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It's certainly no coronavirus risk, the poor buggers are being cooped up below anyway, in this sort of space:


As far as I'm aware the navy is working near enough normally, maybe not shoreside but definitely on the ships

And as for the "Alcohol" well I know a few ex matelots, there's plenty of that, BBQ or not!

As always with the navy it will be going against orders that's the issue, not the act itself.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

183 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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The crew would very likely not be allowed outside the base with shore leave.

It is the very least the Captain could do.

Total non-story.