Who's a naughty boy then?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52531078
Conor Burns resigns after using his position as an MP to intimidate a member of the public.
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Conor Burns resigns after using his position as an MP to intimidate a member of the public.
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scenario8 said:
What’s the specifics? What was actually written / said by the Minister?
More than enough to get him sanctioned and hopefully enough for his bosses to see sense and insist he goes. British politics has no place for those that abuse their position. Despicable behaviour by Mr Burns.He seems to have only resigned as a junior minister. I wonder whether he will be sacked as an MP?
Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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Unknown_User said:
scenario8 said:
What’s the specifics? What was actually written / said by the Minister?
More than enough to get him sanctioned and hopefully enough for his bosses to see sense and insist he goes. British politics has no place for those that abuse their position. Despicable behaviour by Mr Burns.My job requires me to have clean driving licence. It’s in my contract. No arguing. A fictitious headline might scream “scenario8 sacked after driving offences” but the meat to the bone might be I went through average cameras on a Gatwick run on a downhill stretch of the M23 at 5am at 59mph. Which is (to most people) far less serious than 52 in a 30 past a junior school in term time or DD or DWDC, for example.
shed driver said:
He seems to have only resigned as a junior minister. I wonder whether he will be sacked as an MP?
Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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Many thanks. I was typing my previous post as you were typing yours. I’ll have a read.Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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scenario8 said:
Unknown_User said:
scenario8 said:
What’s the specifics? What was actually written / said by the Minister?
More than enough to get him sanctioned and hopefully enough for his bosses to see sense and insist he goes. British politics has no place for those that abuse their position. Despicable behaviour by Mr Burns.My job requires me to have clean driving licence. It’s in my contract. No arguing. A fictitious headline might scream “scenario8 sacked after driving offences” but the meat to the bone might be I went through average cameras on a Gatwick run on a downhill stretch of the M23 at 5am at 59mph. Which is (to most people) far less serious than 52 in a 30 past a junior school in term time or DD or DWDC, for example.
Unknown_User said:
scenario8 said:
Unknown_User said:
scenario8 said:
What’s the specifics? What was actually written / said by the Minister?
More than enough to get him sanctioned and hopefully enough for his bosses to see sense and insist he goes. British politics has no place for those that abuse their position. Despicable behaviour by Mr Burns.My job requires me to have clean driving licence. It’s in my contract. No arguing. A fictitious headline might scream “scenario8 sacked after driving offences” but the meat to the bone might be I went through average cameras on a Gatwick run on a downhill stretch of the M23 at 5am at 59mph. Which is (to most people) far less serious than 52 in a 30 past a junior school in term time or DD or DWDC, for example.
Committee on Standards said:
The Committee’s overall conclusion is that Mr Burns used his parliamentary position in an attempt to intimidate a member of the public into doing as Mr Burns wished, in a dispute relating to purely private family interests which had no connection with Mr Burns’ parliamentary duties, that he persisted in making veiled threats to use parliamentary privilege to further his family’s interests even during the course of the Commissioner’s investigation, and that he misleadingly implied that his conduct had the support of the House authorities.
P45 then.shed driver said:
He seems to have only resigned as a junior minister. I wonder whether he will be sacked as an MP?
Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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MPs can't be sacked as such but can have the whip removed meaning they are independent MPs from then on.Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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Ministers can be removed from cabinet positions - equivalent of sacking, but he has already resigned his position.
MPs technically can't resign either - they either leave office at the end of their electoral term, die or apply for stewardship of the chiltern hundreds or Steward of the Manor of Northstead either position will disbar them from holding position of MP and force a by-election.
In short, there is little the party can do.
shed driver said:
He seems to have only resigned as a junior minister. I wonder whether he will be sacked as an MP?
Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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"...Mr Burns’ apology, though welcome, came at the end of a process in which he had initially argued he had acted within the rules, and that he had persisted in making ill-disguised threats to use his privileged position as a Member to pursue his family interests, even after the Commissioner had informed him that this was a serious breach of the rules."Full reports here. https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/comm...
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Stupid and arrogant, hopefully he will be deselected as he isn't meeting the high standards set by his alter ego.
At least when a current senior member of the cabinet allegedly tried something similar with a neighbour of mine over a boundary dispute a couple of years ago she had the sense to do it face to face and not put it in writing.
You have to be an idiot to think this kind of thing won't blow back, and terminally stupid to actually provide physical evidence.
You have to be an idiot to think this kind of thing won't blow back, and terminally stupid to actually provide physical evidence.
Jonesy23 said:
At least when a current senior member of the cabinet allegedly tried something similar with a neighbour of mine over a boundary dispute a couple of years ago she had the sense to do it face to face and not put it in writing.
You have to be an idiot to think this kind of thing won't blow back, and terminally stupid to actually provide physical evidence.
Quite. Arrogance and stupidity tend not to go unpunished for long.You have to be an idiot to think this kind of thing won't blow back, and terminally stupid to actually provide physical evidence.
It seems he was bang out of order and I'd agree he has no place as an MP.
Having read the report, it does seem to be an extremely ill-judged attempt to twist the arm of the "former senior public official". I particularly enjoyed the part where he said that if he was going to be punished then he may be required to publicly disclose the details of the spat over the loan repayment by discussing it in Parliament. A sort of dead man's switch to try and dissuade the complainant, I suppose.
I'm surprised he thought he could use the discussion of the dispute on official parliamentary time as a threat, surely eyebrows would be raised if an MP takes a stand to moan about his dad getting shafted on a loan. Still, he doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. His behaviour is unacceptable and I expect he won't be an MP for too much longer. Ironic that he was seeking to end the stress and dismay caused to his father, but has probably multiplied it considerably.
I'm surprised he thought he could use the discussion of the dispute on official parliamentary time as a threat, surely eyebrows would be raised if an MP takes a stand to moan about his dad getting shafted on a loan. Still, he doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. His behaviour is unacceptable and I expect he won't be an MP for too much longer. Ironic that he was seeking to end the stress and dismay caused to his father, but has probably multiplied it considerably.
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