Covid 19 How can you infect less than one person?
Covid 19 How can you infect less than one person?
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silverfoxcc

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8,144 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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The R factor Surely you infect either 1 or zero

It is the same as being a little bit pregnant isn't it?

and while we are it, the latest lot of boat people are escaping the camps because ( according to the daily wail) an outbreak of the disease.

Are these being

1) put into strict quarantine

2) being sent back before their feet hit the UK

3) told to report to the local immigration office on Monday and sent on their way?

And why set a date three weeks in advance for all bona fide travellers entering the country? what is wrong with tomorrow?

Or am i really missing the point?

gmugs

36 posts

72 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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You can't. You can infect a whole number of people, zero or more. When they speak about fractions they are talking about averages. If half of people infected infect one other person each then on average people who are infected infect half a person each. In other words, infecting less than one person each on average means that some infected people are not passing on the disease to others.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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silverfoxcc said:
Or am i really missing the point?
You're missing numerous points, but well done for trying.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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silverfoxcc said:
The R factor Surely you infect either 1 or zero

It is the same as being a little bit pregnant isn't it?

and while we are it, the latest lot of boat people are escaping the camps because ( according to the daily wail) an outbreak of the disease.

Are these being

1) put into strict quarantine

2) being sent back before their feet hit the UK

3) told to report to the local immigration office on Monday and sent on their way?

And why set a date three weeks in advance for all bona fide travellers entering the country? what is wrong with tomorrow?

Or am i really missing the point?
Take an R of 0.5.

One person can't infect half a person.

Ten people can on average infect five people.

mmm-five

12,156 posts

308 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Basically...above 1 and it spreads, below 1 and it's being contained.

Covid is now estimated to be in the 4-5 range.

Understanding R Nought (R₀) by Khan Acadamy

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

113 months

Sunday 10th May 2020
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Or putting it another way as in South Korea 1 guy infected 27.

This does not equate to an R of 27 when averaged out across the population.

Pan Pan Pan

10,725 posts

135 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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We have been told that the wearing of a mask does not protect the wearer, but it does protect others from the wearer.
Surely on that basis, it would mean that if everyone was to wear a mask in public places, where the 2 metre distancing is problematic, wearing a mask would still be of benefit in reducing the spread of the disease?
Was the story that masks did not make much difference only put about to stop people trying to get hold of face masks, and thereby diverting supplies away from front line health workers?
I saw a woman on yootube making a mask out of an old pair of socks, So I tried it, and nearly killed me! I think I should have washed them first!

mmm-five

12,156 posts

308 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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I've got some balaclavas I used to use in my old job - I bet I could wear them now and walk straight into a bank or a shop without a second look.

PositronicRay

28,680 posts

207 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
We have been told that the wearing of a mask does not protect the wearer, but it does protect others from the wearer.
Surely on that basis, it would mean that if everyone was to wear a mask in public places, where the 2 metre distancing is problematic, wearing a mask would still be of benefit in reducing the spread of the disease?
Was the story that masks did not make much difference only put about to stop people trying to get hold of face masks, and thereby diverting supplies away from front line health workers?
I saw a woman on yootube making a mask out of an old pair of socks, So I tried it, and nearly killed me! I think I should have washed them first!
Wearing a mask isn't a get out of jail free card.

mmm-five

12,156 posts

308 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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PositronicRay said:
Wearing a mask isn't a get out of jail free card.
It helps if they can't identify you though!

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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Don't think I've seen a more fitting example of the saying "better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."






rscott

17,071 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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Surely it's obvious. The average family size in the UK is 2.3 children.
So between one and three of the .3 of a child are getting infected.

wc98

12,401 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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i4got said:
Don't think I've seen a more fitting example of the saying "better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."
i would prefer to use the saying "there is no such thing as a stupid question".

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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wc98 said:
i4got said:
Don't think I've seen a more fitting example of the saying "better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."
i would prefer to use the saying "there is no such thing as a stupid question".
You have obviously not been watching the daily press conference.

imp123

281 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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i4got said:
wc98 said:
i4got said:
Don't think I've seen a more fitting example of the saying "better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it."
i would prefer to use the saying "there is no such thing as a stupid question".
You have obviously not been watching the daily press conference.
That's more of a question becoming stupid when you keep asking it despite it being answered already........Robert...........Peston....heeeeeerrrrrreeee

HustleRussell

26,181 posts

184 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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silverfoxcc said:
The R factor Surely you infect either 1 or zero
fkin hell rofl

wc98

12,401 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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i4got said:
You have obviously not been watching the daily press conference.
biggrin correct, i gave up on them weeks ago. i should have added the caveat, unless journalist.

Murph7355

40,970 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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HustleRussell said:
silverfoxcc said:
The R factor Surely you infect either 1 or zero
fkin hell rofl
biggrin

But seriously, the internet should be being used for educating...

https://www.topmarks.co.uk/

Smollet

15,515 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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bhstewie said:
Take an R of 0.5.

One person can't infect half a person.

Ten people can on average infect five people.
Simple straightforward no frills easy to understand answer. Close the thread

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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HustleRussell said:
silverfoxcc said:
The R factor Surely you infect either 1 or zero
fkin hell rofl
laugh No wonder the government’s taking the cautious view........