Liberal Democrats Election inquisition
Liberal Democrats Election inquisition
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Vanden Saab

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17,440 posts

98 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Couldn't find a LibDem thread so thought I would put this here. What with everyone being bored at home what could be more interesting than 61 pages of the LibDems explaining why they bombed at the last election...

https://www.scribd.com/document/461584604/2019-Lib...

The first page sort of sums it up...
LDGER said:
. To say that the outcome of the general election on 11 December 2019 was a bitter disappointment for the Liberal Democrats is a big understatement
rofl

Dont Panic

1,389 posts

75 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Cos theyre all bloody awful? Should have been on page 1. hehe

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Vanden Saab said:
Couldn't find a LibDem thread so thought I would put this here. What with everyone being bored at home what could be more interesting than 61 pages of the LibDems explaining why they bombed at the last election...

https://www.scribd.com/document/461584604/2019-Lib...

The first page sort of sums it up...
LDGER said:
. To say that the outcome of the general election on 11 December 2019 was a bitter disappointment for the Liberal Democrats is a big understatement
rofl
Cos they got all their supporters to vote a day early?


grumbledoak

32,413 posts

257 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Did they work out yet that "Ignoring the referendum result is just fine" isn't actually fine in a democracy?

Plonkers.

Murph7355

40,970 posts

280 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Vanden Saab said:
Couldn't find a LibDem thread ...
Do they have enough supporters to start one? smile

But thanks for reminding me about Swinson. Most amusing.

Report said:
These nuances in the make-up of our support were under-appreciated and when we later came to
adopt a stronger Remain position it fragmented...
Nobody could ever have seen that coming biggrin

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

210 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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"La la la it's not about Brexit"

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

183 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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The document could simply say.

For years we have been campaigning to get a real referendum on Europe.

The Govt finally agreed to have one, and Parliament voted by a large majority to hold one.

We lost.

We behaved in the most undemocratic way possible.

The public listened to what we had to say - and didn't like it one bit.

Fittster

20,120 posts

237 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Because the last time people voted for us we propped up a Tory government.

Unsurprisingly the voters no longer trust us.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

117 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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They based their campaign around their leader, the "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats" bus comes to mind. However, she was about as much use as a chocolate teapot when on camera and she has all the gravitas of a digestive biscuit.

The FPTP electoral system is particularly cruel to a party with their reasonable, but thinly spread support, too. Compare their results with the SNP who have a concentrated voter base to rely on:

SNP: 1.2 million votes, 48 seats

Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats: Just shy of 3.7 million votes, 11 seats

Hey ho

glazbagun

15,178 posts

221 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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FN2TypeR said:
They based their campaign around their leader, the "Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats" bus comes to mind. However, she was about as much use as a chocolate teapot when on camera and she has all the gravitas of a digestive biscuit.

The FPTP electoral system is particularly cruel to a party with their reasonable, but thinly spread support, too. Compare their results with the SNP who have a concentrated voter base to rely on:

SNP: 1.2 million votes, 48 seats

Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats: Just shy of 3.7 million votes, 11 seats

Hey ho
Which is partly why the Lib Dems, for as long as I can remember, have campaigned for the removal of FPTP and to bring in PR instead- it being a more representative form of democracy.

So of course it makes perfect sense to run on a campaign for your Lib Dem sympathisers based entirely around overturning a democratically legitimate referendum by using the powers granted you by the same faulty FPTP you've been railing against since forever.

Honestly, I think it would be easier to list the things they got right.

A Winner Is You

25,844 posts

251 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Who could have possibly predicted making songs about stopping Brexit and banging on about gender identity wouldn't connect with common voters?

jsc15

981 posts

232 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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12 posts into a LibDem thread and no-one has mentioned or posted.........The Photo

dandarez

13,908 posts

307 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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jsc15 said:
12 posts into a LibDem thread and no-one has mentioned or posted.........The Photo
thumbup


Here's the next leader Layla, next to someone who has 'chucked' it in, thankfully.
Strange reflection behind him on the wall! hehe


Murph7355

40,970 posts

280 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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dandarez said:
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Here's the next leader Layla...
If they want to up their seat count they'd be well advised to ditch her too.

Biker 1

8,435 posts

143 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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Do they actually have any normal looking/sounding people in the party? They're all, well, just a little bit weird. I find them disturbing.....

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

210 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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Biker 1 said:
Do they actually have any normal looking/sounding people in the party? They're all, well, just a little bit weird. I find them disturbing.....
I find this odd too given they are a roughly centrist party. "Weird centrists" must be in fairly short supply.

Vanden Saab

Original Poster:

17,440 posts

98 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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dandarez said:
jsc15 said:
12 posts into a LibDem thread and no-one has mentioned or posted.........The Photo
thumbup


Here's the next leader Layla, next to someone who has 'chucked' it in, thankfully.
Strange reflection behind him on the wall! hehe

Ha ha thanks for that I had all but forgotten.. and 'pricks with ears' was a common term for skinheads when I was a lad but that is on a whole different level biglaugh . Happy memories...

Roofless Toothless

7,182 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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glazbagun said:
Which is partly why the Lib Dems, for as long as I can remember, have campaigned for the removal of FPTP and to bring in PR instead- it being a more representative form of democracy.

So of course it makes perfect sense to run on a campaign for your Lib Dem sympathisers based entirely around overturning a democratically legitimate referendum by using the powers granted you by the same faulty FPTP you've been railing against since forever.

Honestly, I think it would be easier to list the things they got right.
The possibility of keeping the Liberals permanently out of power was the reason I voted against PR when we were given the chance.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

184 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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I think of them as a party that appeals to public sector ,teacher , non job types ...
sort of insipid while destructive to common sense at the same time ..

Guybrush

4,364 posts

230 months

Saturday 16th May 2020
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Making quite clear they were neither Liberal nor Democratic didn't exactly help.