Is Steve Coogan a hypocrite?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8342093/S...
Wail article says that multi-millionaire Steve Coogan, whose business has not noticeably been affected by the pandemic, seems to have furloughed his domestic staff so that the taxpayer pays 80% of their salaries.
Not sure if this is hypocrisy, or just a champagne socialist doing what a champagne socialist does?
What say you?
Wail article says that multi-millionaire Steve Coogan, whose business has not noticeably been affected by the pandemic, seems to have furloughed his domestic staff so that the taxpayer pays 80% of their salaries.
Not sure if this is hypocrisy, or just a champagne socialist doing what a champagne socialist does?
What say you?
Ayahuasca said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8342093/S...
Wail article says that multi-millionaire Steve Coogan, whose business has not noticeably been affected by the pandemic, seems to have furloughed his domestic staff so that the taxpayer pays 80% of their salaries.
Not sure if this is hypocrisy, or just a champagne socialist doing what a champagne socialist does?
What say you?
I say so what?Wail article says that multi-millionaire Steve Coogan, whose business has not noticeably been affected by the pandemic, seems to have furloughed his domestic staff so that the taxpayer pays 80% of their salaries.
Not sure if this is hypocrisy, or just a champagne socialist doing what a champagne socialist does?
What say you?
Why wouldn't he?
If they are genuinely furloughed, wouldn't that mean that they are employed through a company that Coogan has set up just to employ his domestic staff?
If so, can't fault him for taking advantage of the Government offer.
What we are learning now put aside, a couple of months ago this was touted as a scary and infectious disease - if I were in his position I wouldn't want people coming into my house potentially spreading infection so would do the same.
If so, can't fault him for taking advantage of the Government offer.
What we are learning now put aside, a couple of months ago this was touted as a scary and infectious disease - if I were in his position I wouldn't want people coming into my house potentially spreading infection so would do the same.
scottydoesntknow said:
He’s the epitome of a champagne socialist. Horrible smug little man.
Like 90% of individuals in London who work in the Television or Film industry. Even uttering a sentence which sounds remotely centre right will see you losing work for months or years. Why do you think queen of the champagne socialists Emma Thompson keeps getting work despite her blatant hypocrisy teaming up with Extinction Rebellion flying thousands of miles from LA to London to protest against carbon emissions.
If the rules allow it, he hasn’t done anything wrong.
Everyone is entitled to draw their own moral stance, but the government draws the laws of the land.
It has got me thinking though, is it not a bit surprising he hasn’t had some sort of mbe or the like yet?
I wonder if his tax affairs walk a similar line, all legal, but no Snow White.
Everyone is entitled to draw their own moral stance, but the government draws the laws of the land.
It has got me thinking though, is it not a bit surprising he hasn’t had some sort of mbe or the like yet?
I wonder if his tax affairs walk a similar line, all legal, but no Snow White.
paulw123 said:
Wonder why his gardener can’t work outside. I’m
A gardener and have worked through.
This is why furlough needs to be looked at and proved it’s required on a case by case basis
So the taxpayer has to pay for staff to review 8 million cases.A gardener and have worked through.
This is why furlough needs to be looked at and proved it’s required on a case by case basis
How much is that going to cost?
Are you one of these 'we should means test everyone for everything, but I want smaller government with less bureaucracy' types?
zygalski said:
So the taxpayer has to pay for staff to review 8 million cases.
How much is that going to cost?
Are you one of these 'we should means test everyone for everything, but I want smaller government with less bureaucracy' types?
Obviously the financial backgrounds of 8 million claimants can't be individually forensically examined but there has to be some middle ground between what we currently have (and what we already had prior to Covid), which is a benefits system being massively abused on an unprecedented scale by those taking advantage of it in many ways, often not committing out and out fraud but just 'playing' the system.How much is that going to cost?
Are you one of these 'we should means test everyone for everything, but I want smaller government with less bureaucracy' types?
mike74 said:
Obviously the financial backgrounds of 8 million claimants can't be individually forensically examined but there has to be some middle ground between what we currently have (and what we already had prior to Covid), which is a benefits system being massively abused on an unprecedented scale by those taking advantage of it in many ways, often not committing out and out fraud but just 'playing' the system.
The whole point of all of these help schemes was they had to be devised quickly and put into operation quickly. This was largely achieved but at the expense of extensive checks and tests.zygalski said:
So a little bit of means testing for some cases.
What factors should be used to determine which of the 8 million claims to investigate?
Well if I had the capability to answer that question and set up and run a fair and functioning benefits system which rewarded those in genuine need and not those who just look up on it as a lifestyle choice or who are able to manipulate it to supplement what is already a very comfortable income, then I expect I'd be in a very senior position as a policy maker in the Civil Service.What factors should be used to determine which of the 8 million claims to investigate?
I'm guessing you're one of these who advocates free money to all no questions asked, regardless of whether you've been struck down by disability or you're just a feckless breeder or a pensioner sitting on assets worth half a million yet still entitled to pension tax credits.
In my experience it's the ones who most need benefits, the genuinely ill and disabled, that are subject to the toughest and most rigorous qualifying testing and are then awarded the least generous benefits if they do get them.
Flumpo said:
If the rules allow it, he hasn’t done anything wrong.
Everyone is entitled to draw their own moral stance, but the government draws the laws of the land.
It has got me thinking though, is it not a bit surprising he hasn’t had some sort of mbe or the like yet?
I wonder if his tax affairs walk a similar line, all legal, but no Snow White.
The original post doesn't say it's illegal, just being a hypocrite. I have no idea what his views are, but if he's pretty left wing (pic with Corbyn?) then it is being a hypocrite. It was interesting moving here to Norway - there's a very different attitude from (most) people. They're generally fine or happy paying the high tax to look after people. In the UK it's often about saying stuff, but wanting someone else to pay (on both sides of the political spectrum - right blame the poor lazy benefit thieves, left blame the rich landowner snobs. In reality to get the benefit system, NHS etc that many seem to publicly want both have to pay a lot more tax rather than blaming the other. Everyone is entitled to draw their own moral stance, but the government draws the laws of the land.
It has got me thinking though, is it not a bit surprising he hasn’t had some sort of mbe or the like yet?
I wonder if his tax affairs walk a similar line, all legal, but no Snow White.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
gazza285 said:
I say so what?
Why wouldn't he?
Because the scheme is to provide an income for employees where there is temporarily no work for the employee to do due to Covid-19.Why wouldn't he?
Coogan has work for them to do, so it not eligible to claim.
Is that just an assumption?
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