Hertz has filed for bankruptcy protection
Hertz has filed for bankruptcy protection
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JulianHJ

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8,861 posts

286 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-hertz-glo-hldg-b...

A bit of a worry, they’re $19Bn in debt and have missed some payment deadlines.

Hopefully they’ll pull through - they seem to offer the widest choice of interesting cars in my experience.

I didn’t realise they own BCA as well.

Reciprocating mass

6,053 posts

265 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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BCA is owned by TDR capital

Lotus Notes

1,317 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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You could run a small country with $19 Billion.
How badly run is this company or or more likely, who's bled them dry?

Blaming Coronavirus is an easy out for these guys (like many others)..

captain_cynic

16,406 posts

119 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Lotus Notes said:
You could run a small country with $19 Billion.
How badly run is this company or or more likely, who's bled them dry?

Blaming Coronavirus is an easy out for these guys (like many others)..
Rental cars are a highly competitive market in most countries.

But I think this is a case of the modern philosophy of running everything on debt and assuming nothing will ever go wrong.

rich12

3,468 posts

178 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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They already filed for bankruptcy haven't they?

Yep.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-23/car-rental-com...

Edited by rich12 on Saturday 23 May 09:13

CambsBill

2,412 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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They're $19billion in debt and they don't even own the cars yikes Unless the vast majority of the $19bn is the future lease payments then that's a seriously badly run business.

jhoneyball

1,794 posts

300 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Hertz has filed for bankruptcy -- it has $18.7 billion debt and $1billion in cash.


https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-23/car-rental-com...

swisstoni

22,698 posts

303 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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That’s a bit of a bombshell. Hertz have been a huge US brand for decades.

Dave Hedgehog

15,889 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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its just the start


nikaiyo2

5,806 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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swisstoni said:
That’s a bit of a bombshell. Hertz have been a huge US brand for decades.
Chapter 11 is not end of brand and fire sale of assets, it’s protection from creditors to allow continued trading.

alorotom

12,697 posts

211 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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I was amazed when I saw it on the news ... clearly they have a fine line on profitability vs asset cost

Most of their trade must be business usage.

Chris32345

2,140 posts

86 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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alorotom said:
I was amazed when I saw it on the news ... clearly they have a fine line on profitability vs asset cost

Most of their trade must be business usage.
Obviously not been doing very well on the profit line since long before all this with debts like those

parabolica

6,967 posts

208 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Pretty sure I saw a Jalopnik article the other day about how dozens of Hertz Yellow Corvette Z06s suddenly appeared on the likes of AutoTrader US as they try to shift dormant stock.

ETA Business Insider not Jalopnik; saw the article tweeted by a Jalopnik writer. https://www.businessinsider.com/hertz-selling-chev...

Edited by parabolica on Saturday 23 May 11:03

Barchettaman

7,149 posts

156 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Not bad value; 650hp for $57k, even as an automatic.

flatso

1,360 posts

153 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Will be interesting to see if they dump their inventory on the used car market, driving prices lower! Maybe the creditors will hold back on that as it will diminish their returns even more.
I know that Hertz has some nice models in their line-up in the US, anything interesting in Europe?

I think it is just the start as well, with more car rentals following as tourism will continue to be stuck in the gutters for the rest of the year.

av185

20,464 posts

151 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Dave Hedgehog said:
its just the start
If not essentially the end for Hertz.

Dixy

3,519 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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They go in cycles.

Dixy

3,519 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Don't wave them goodbye yet.

HocusPocus

1,924 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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All part of a turnaround plan for its US brands, Hertz, Dollar, Thrifty. Creditor protection strategy whilst they liquidate 30,000 cars a month to reduce debt, sack staff and beg for Federal support funds.

European rental companies will be sufferng the same with leased cars collecting bird poo with zero income receipts. The car dumping is about to begin as there are simply too many cars out there being unused.

Wooda80

1,743 posts

99 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Interesting dilemma for some people on here:

On the one hand they are desperately hoping for sellers to be stood forlornly by their cars bearing signs like 'Wife and family to support - any offer gratefully accepted'

On the other hand they wouldn't touch an ex-rental car because it must have been 'abused' in some way.