Where do you get your news?
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Ratski83 said:
Telegraph and Daily Mail mostly but I like to have a quick flick through the Guardian to see what the enemy is up to.
Occasionally check t
tter and watch the BBC or ITV 10pm News and can stomach about 5mins of Marr on Sunday’s.
I don't espouse its politics, but if I am looking online for a newspaper source I'd choose the Guardian over the other two you mention.Occasionally check t
tter and watch the BBC or ITV 10pm News and can stomach about 5mins of Marr on Sunday’s. Good question as how we receive our news must be one of the most impacting societal changes in a generation.
I'm not fussy about sources really so tend to bounce around. I avoid the UK's red-top tabloids and the Daily Mail, and you will never learn anything from the Breitbart-types so they're out, but apart from that I'm easy. I find the more targeted the source, the better the news i.e. if you want science news, you're best reading a science news source.
I tend to find out about things first from Twitter and if it's quite a niche story, I'll try and find experts on there to get their take. Annoyingly, Twitter itself would much prefer you to see what Katie Hopkins thinks, rather than one of the many experts it has on its platform, so that can be frustrating.
As good as Twitter is for breaking news, I've too often found myself misinformed so there is still a dire need for good journalists to filter the bulls
t.
I'd be happy to pay for a Netflix type service for news, in which you pay a subscription for access to a wide range of differing views. The paywall models are not sustainable because I don't think people are loyal to a particular newspaper like they used to, so something like that would appeal.
I'm not fussy about sources really so tend to bounce around. I avoid the UK's red-top tabloids and the Daily Mail, and you will never learn anything from the Breitbart-types so they're out, but apart from that I'm easy. I find the more targeted the source, the better the news i.e. if you want science news, you're best reading a science news source.
I tend to find out about things first from Twitter and if it's quite a niche story, I'll try and find experts on there to get their take. Annoyingly, Twitter itself would much prefer you to see what Katie Hopkins thinks, rather than one of the many experts it has on its platform, so that can be frustrating.
As good as Twitter is for breaking news, I've too often found myself misinformed so there is still a dire need for good journalists to filter the bulls
t.I'd be happy to pay for a Netflix type service for news, in which you pay a subscription for access to a wide range of differing views. The paywall models are not sustainable because I don't think people are loyal to a particular newspaper like they used to, so something like that would appeal.
I'll read anything. The more you read, the broader range of view you see and the easier it is to detect spin.
In a given day, I'll read The Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail, Zerohedge, some local news sites. I'll also read a lot of random linked stuff that I see online.
IMO you can see the leftist bias in The Guardian just as clearly as the frothy bias in the Daily Mail. Zerohedge has some nuggets in it, but is mostly amusement. The BBC is about 3 days behind the rest of the internet.
The beauty of the internet is that you can go to original sources for a lot of stories. Someone releases a report - 20 years ago I had to rely on a journalists interpretation of that. Now I can read it myself if I am interested.
In a given day, I'll read The Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail, Zerohedge, some local news sites. I'll also read a lot of random linked stuff that I see online.
IMO you can see the leftist bias in The Guardian just as clearly as the frothy bias in the Daily Mail. Zerohedge has some nuggets in it, but is mostly amusement. The BBC is about 3 days behind the rest of the internet.
The beauty of the internet is that you can go to original sources for a lot of stories. Someone releases a report - 20 years ago I had to rely on a journalists interpretation of that. Now I can read it myself if I am interested.
Only publication I subscribe to and read anywhere near regularly is The Spectator, as it's usually well written and a good place to get both sides of an argument so you can draw your own conclusions.
Other than that I'll check all sort of sources - usually via Twitter. Only ones I tend to avoid are The Mail and The Grauniad, for fairly obvious reasons.
Other than that I'll check all sort of sources - usually via Twitter. Only ones I tend to avoid are The Mail and The Grauniad, for fairly obvious reasons.
Hereward said:
I moved from BBC to Reuters when I started to get tired of "the message". Still look at BBC every few days.
Another Reuters fan here. They are very good as long as you bypass the 'from other sources' stories. Unlike you I don't bother with the BBC anymore. If I want to see what the latest spin is I use Guido and the Guardian. For world news on the tv I use Euronews, the adverts and music are a bit irritating and it is a sort of loop but they are quite neutral and cover a lot of ground in a short time. Wikipedia's homepage has a small news tab with the most relevant things happening worldwide. If it's not important enough to be there probably it's not worthy my time.
For more detail, usually for finance, I check Reuters, AP, Al-Jazeera (except for anything related to Qatar). For science I start by checking sciencedaily.com and reddit.com/r/science. If something captures my attention then I go directly to the sources/papers/etc.
More important than the news is how the news are being interpreted. For that I give a cursory glance at the Guardian, Daily Mail and Reddit.
Oh and of course Byker28i in NP&E for the daily insanity digest.
For more detail, usually for finance, I check Reuters, AP, Al-Jazeera (except for anything related to Qatar). For science I start by checking sciencedaily.com and reddit.com/r/science. If something captures my attention then I go directly to the sources/papers/etc.
More important than the news is how the news are being interpreted. For that I give a cursory glance at the Guardian, Daily Mail and Reddit.
Oh and of course Byker28i in NP&E for the daily insanity digest.
Tin foil hat on and flame suit donned for this one...
Up until about 3 years ago I used to consume circa 3-4 hours of 'news' each day on every topic I was interested in using what I thought were more credible and balanced sources ie BBC, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, The Times, Guardian and many others.
When doing some research into historical events such as the attack on the USS Liberty and the NATO intervention in Libya (you know the one where democracy was installed back in 2011) and stumbling on pieces such as Smedley D Butlers' 1935 speech "War is a Racket" I realised ALL 'news' is controlled and my opinion I thought I had formed over many years was actually handed to me by the MSM.
There are 3 main news agencies in the world, Reuters, AP and AFP. Everything trickles down form those 3 and that explains why no matter where you watch the 'news' - it is the same.
I still check on the MSM daily to see how something I now know a lot more about is being reported and tbh it stinks how we have to endure omissions. lies and talking heads sycophantically speaking for power.
However, my main source of information now comes from independent journos on Twitter or their own blogs, people with no corporate masters or axe to grind and/or senior editor swiping the pen through what they want to say.
To name a few:
John Pilger
Peter Hitchins
Craig Murray
Vanessa Beeley
Eva Bartlett
Kit Knightly
Shaun Attwood
Noam Chomsky
Whitney Webb
If anyone is interested in reading unedited and proper sourced and cited content from alternative media , I can recommend the following two:
https://off-guardian.org Ex-Guardian staff (pre intelligence service infiltration) disenfranchised by being made to report lies on Libya left and started their own online publication).
https://www.sott.net/ (some 'interesting and some quirky' topics covered here but the editorial comment and research behind the important topics is worthy of a read, eg the analysis of the Skripal affair and how the official narrative just doesn't add up.
I think the recent shambles that is the Gov handling of Covid has wakened a lot more people up as to the fact that we do not get unbiased, truly critical and investigative reporting from our media. That and the shambles that was the GE19 coverage. (See BBC Thread)
Up until about 3 years ago I used to consume circa 3-4 hours of 'news' each day on every topic I was interested in using what I thought were more credible and balanced sources ie BBC, Al Jazeera, Der Spiegel, The Times, Guardian and many others.
When doing some research into historical events such as the attack on the USS Liberty and the NATO intervention in Libya (you know the one where democracy was installed back in 2011) and stumbling on pieces such as Smedley D Butlers' 1935 speech "War is a Racket" I realised ALL 'news' is controlled and my opinion I thought I had formed over many years was actually handed to me by the MSM.
There are 3 main news agencies in the world, Reuters, AP and AFP. Everything trickles down form those 3 and that explains why no matter where you watch the 'news' - it is the same.
I still check on the MSM daily to see how something I now know a lot more about is being reported and tbh it stinks how we have to endure omissions. lies and talking heads sycophantically speaking for power.
However, my main source of information now comes from independent journos on Twitter or their own blogs, people with no corporate masters or axe to grind and/or senior editor swiping the pen through what they want to say.
To name a few:
John Pilger
Peter Hitchins
Craig Murray
Vanessa Beeley
Eva Bartlett
Kit Knightly
Shaun Attwood
Noam Chomsky
Whitney Webb
If anyone is interested in reading unedited and proper sourced and cited content from alternative media , I can recommend the following two:
https://off-guardian.org Ex-Guardian staff (pre intelligence service infiltration) disenfranchised by being made to report lies on Libya left and started their own online publication).
https://www.sott.net/ (some 'interesting and some quirky' topics covered here but the editorial comment and research behind the important topics is worthy of a read, eg the analysis of the Skripal affair and how the official narrative just doesn't add up.
I think the recent shambles that is the Gov handling of Covid has wakened a lot more people up as to the fact that we do not get unbiased, truly critical and investigative reporting from our media. That and the shambles that was the GE19 coverage. (See BBC Thread)
Pistonheads mainly, though. I used to read the Guardian, Daily mail and the Independent until I realised that "broadening my views" was doing more harm than good. I'm much happier now that I stick to car forums and TV comment sections.
I've ruined many a good moodreading the Guardian's opinion pages. I have been known to tear them out in a rage on occasion!
I hate Morrissey's music with a passion, but he had it right in this song:
"Stop watching the news
Because the news contrives to frighten you
To make you feel small and alone
To make you feel that your mind isn't your own"
Guardian long reads and Private Eye are always worth a look for quality investigative journalism. The latter is better because it's got funny bits to stop you drowning in a pit of nihilistic despair.
I've ruined many a good moodreading the Guardian's opinion pages. I have been known to tear them out in a rage on occasion!
I hate Morrissey's music with a passion, but he had it right in this song:
"Stop watching the news
Because the news contrives to frighten you
To make you feel small and alone
To make you feel that your mind isn't your own"
Guardian long reads and Private Eye are always worth a look for quality investigative journalism. The latter is better because it's got funny bits to stop you drowning in a pit of nihilistic despair.
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