Why is the number of schools with c19 not being reported?
Why is the number of schools with c19 not being reported?
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JohnCarlisleApeiron

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96 posts

90 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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3 pubs are shut and it makes headlines all over, yet nothing is said about school closures. The Mrs knows, she teaches and gets the teachers news. She has looked for it else where and concluded it is being suppressed.

Is this part of some conspiracy by the press / gov, or do we only give a crap about pubs.

Note, i haven't double checked the facts, so wife could be wrong, paranoid, playing me for a fool smile

44 in the first week, then 15, then another load this week.

I await the black helicopters, and a knock on the door...

Ta

J

Douglas Quaid

2,617 posts

109 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Is spreading fear about schools really desirable when kids are at no risk from covid?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Plenty of tinfoil, now on sale.

kambites

70,867 posts

245 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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There have been some in the news haven't there?

wiggy001

7,066 posts

295 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Are they school closures, or just reported cases?

My daughter isn't back yet (she's year 2), but there was a case confirmed at her school so the "bubble" was shut down which, IIRC, meant 15 kinds and a couple of teachers isolating for 7 days. So not exactly the whole school closing down.

gregs656

12,137 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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So your question is why aren't these being reported in the news, and you know they're not being reported because your wife read about it... in the news?


bigandclever

14,227 posts

262 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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JohnCarlisleApeiron

Original Poster:

96 posts

90 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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The rub was, why not reported in mainstream media, vs 3 pubs making the headlines. If you have to dredge up a teaching focused rag and a local news site, it seems a like you are struggling.

LOL at trying to start a scare story. BTW

The point is; does the UK care more about 3 piss pot pubs than the welfare of our children. It appears so hehe

Surprises me that we aren't "Thinking of the children." I we can't get pi55ed on draft beer, it is news of national priority.

Priorities? UK?

wiggy001

7,066 posts

295 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JohnCarlisleApeiron said:
The rub was, why not reported in mainstream media, vs 3 pubs making the headlines. If you have to dredge up a teaching focused rag and a local news site, it seems a like you are struggling.

LOL at trying to start a scare story. BTW

The point is; does the UK care more about 3 piss pot pubs than the welfare of our children. It appears so hehe

Surprises me that we aren't "Thinking of the children." I we can't get pi55ed on draft beer, it is news of national priority.

Priorities? UK?
It's not necessary the priorities of the UK you should be questioning, but those of the media.

Schools is old news now, they've been back for a while now. Pubs have only just reopened so some closing straight away is news, whether you like it or not.

Neil1300r

5,647 posts

202 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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JohnCarlisleApeiron said:
The point is; does the UK care more about 3 piss pot pubs than the welfare of our children. It appears so hehe
Children are super spreaders but not affected by Covid. They don't die of it (cue someone finding a sad story of a death of a child with it - look at the stats) They are more at risk going to and from the school - death by accidents than they are being in the school. They may give it to the teachers though.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Neil1300r said:
JohnCarlisleApeiron said:
The point is; does the UK care more about 3 piss pot pubs than the welfare of our children. It appears so hehe
Children are super spreaders but not affected by Covid. They don't die of it (cue someone finding a sad story of a death of a child with it - look at the stats) They are more at risk going to and from the school - death by accidents than they are being in the school. They may give it to the teachers though.
Do you have a source for your claim that they are super spreaders please? I seem to recall reading something that said they effectively, and for reasons unknown didnt spread the virus, making me raise an eyebrow at this being the first time the little buggers didnt spread every disease they could smile

Neil1300r

5,647 posts

202 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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randlemarcus said:
Do you have a source for your claim that they are super spreaders please? I seem to recall reading something that said they effectively, and for reasons unknown didnt spread the virus, making me raise an eyebrow at this being the first time the little buggers didnt spread every disease they could smile
Well I just googled it for you. Turns out reports are now saying they aren't! That will teach me smile Not sure I believe it though - like you I expect the little buggers to spread everything

wildoliver

9,222 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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As someone with a teacher wife who I naturally worry about, it's hard to imagine how children can be magically immune from spreading covid. Unless the same research has discovered children are made from special anti viral material.

Given the general belief is that among other transmission methods this virus is spread by contact with surfaces, and children can't resist touching everything the can see or reach, generally have no concept of social distancing and will be coming in to contact with adults of all ages and health states, how exactly are children immune from spreading it? I'm even fairly cynical about the reports that the virus goes in to kids but doesn't either cause symptoms or become transmissible from the child onwards. The drive to reopen everything and especially schools seems to have been more based on getting the economy up and running again than trying to keep the virus contained.

I will say I'm in favour of getting the economy going again, I was against the initial shut down, I think the vulnerable should have been locked up and the rest of us told to apply common sense. The problem is you only have to look at any tourist areas to see how little common sense exists in certain parts of the population.

Truckosaurus

12,962 posts

308 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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They are testing at random schools (the school my sister teaches at is one that has been picked) to see how many teachers are getting infected, so I suspect there'll be something in the press once the school term finishes and they have some numbers.

JagLover

46,202 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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wildoliver said:
As someone with a teacher wife who I naturally worry about, it's hard to imagine how children can be magically immune from spreading covid. Unless the same research has discovered children are made from special anti viral material.
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The mechanism is still unclear but might be connected with how few children develop symptoms.

There have been early scientific studies on the subject though, in many countries.

MaxFromage

2,597 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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wildoliver said:
As someone with a teacher wife who I naturally worry about, it's hard to imagine how children can be magically immune from spreading covid. Unless the same research has discovered children are made from special anti viral material.
I'm afraid you don't understand the basics about viruses, t cells, antibodies etc smile

pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Seems more often the outbreak is among the staff than staff<->student or student<-> student?


panholio

1,100 posts

172 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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My understanding is that there is little evidence for asymptomatic spread being significant or even happening at all. Given ghat children don’t show symptoms, it kind of adds up.

Even the WHO said there was little evidence of asymptomatic spread, however this hasn’t stopped the media, or seemingly my work health and safety bods continually going on about it to support the use of masks and how we’ll have a “second wave”.

Mining Subsidence Man

418 posts

72 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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We should just give teachers 5 years off on full pay, just to be absolutely sure.

ATG

23,123 posts

296 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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JohnCarlisleApeiron said:
Is this part of some conspiracy by the press
Have you ever met any journalists?