Rishi Sunak car crash interview BBC.

[Louis Balfour]

On the BBC now.

The Beeb has just had a self-employed chap being interviewed on Breakfast. He has been unable to access any government help and is talking in terms of suicide.

Rishi Sunak is now being interviewed from a factory somewhere and is apparently unable to hear the BBC interviewer as she is raising the issue with him. He is trotting out the stock lines about what he has done for other people. He does, though, seem to be able to hear less tricky questions.

This looks like a situation that may have legs.

[BMR]

I don’t know what they would expect him to say. He’s a politician and he has given the answer everyone would expect. He’s not going to go down to an individual level.

[Russ T Bolt]

Not coming across well imo.

[Russ T Bolt]

BMR said:

I don’t know what they would expect him to say. He’s a politician and he has given the answer everyone would expect. He’s not going to go down to an individual level.

It isn’t at individual level though, there is a group that have no access to support. My wife is self employed and hasn’t been able to work, she isn't entitled to any support. Fortunately we don’t need that help.

[Hungrymc]

BBC and Naga setting up the only member of current government who really does seem to be going out on a limb to do most of the right things.

If he’s got things 95% right, let’s batter him on the missing 5%

I think it says more about the approach of the BBC than anything about Rushi,

[don'tbesilly]

I'm always amazed at how people see things completely differently.

I wouldn't call it a car crash at all, having watched the interview with Mark (s/employed Guy) and the subsequent interview with Sunak.

[Camelot1971]

I'm certain that if Rishi personally delivered a golden box with £10000 cash to each "self employed" person, some people would still piss and moan about it.

[TR4man]

I’m rather surprised that Naga expects the Chancellor to comment on an individual case.

[don'tbesilly]

TR4man said:

I’m rather surprised that Naga expects the Chancellor to comment on an individual case.

I was surprised that Naga didn't ask Mark some very obvious questions about his personal circumstances.
It was quite clear Mark was struggling and I did have enormous sympathy for him based on what he was saying, however, based on what I know s/employed people can get from the Govt in terms of support, I was curious as to why Naga didn't ask why he wasn't getting said support.

[anonymous-user]

Hungrymc said:

BBC and Naga setting up the only member of current government who really does seem to be going out on a limb to do most of the right things.

If he’s got things 95% right, let’s batter him on the missing 5%

I think it says more about the approach of the BBC than anything about Rushi,

Nothing at all new or unexpected there.

[Russ T Bolt]

TR4man said:

I’m rather surprised that Naga expects the Chancellor to comment on an individual case.

It wasn’t at individual level though was it, he was an example of a group of more than a million people who have received no support.

What does giving £1k per employee to any business who bring staff back from furlough and keeping them for a couple of months achieve.

The house next door to me went on the market straight after lockdown, it sold within a week, does the housing market need propping up now ? What is now likely to happen is real problems next year when the stamp duty cut is lifted which will coincide with the full impact of redundancies later this year.

[Hungrymc]

TR4man said:

I’m rather surprised that Naga expects the Chancellor to comment on an individual case.

Naga is one of those people who despite a good education and being quite intelligent, has a complete inability to understand that there are different perspectives, nuances and different situation. She comes across incredibly condescending and populist to me.

I will say I have great sympathy for Mark Whittaker and anyone else in his position. But it isn’t new, people lose their job, people end up in very difficult circumstances. It’s extremely difficult at the moment, but there will be millions despite Rushi’s best efforts.

[Zirconia]

Sky as well. Looks like a pool opportunity. The press would have been invited.

I know a few self employed that are hammered over this and would love the bail out their way.

[JagLover]

Camelot1971 said:

I'm certain that if Rishi personally delivered a golden box with £10000 cash to each "self employed" person, some people would still piss and moan about it.

I notice you used that in brackets.

The self employed do indeed have support

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-...

Based on declared earnings. So if most of your earnings weren't declared you cannot claim now.

Those who don't get support as those earning more than £50K in profits (fair enough that might some in difficulties just over that level) and those who just started self employment.

[bitchstewie]

I don't think it was a car crash but I don't think he quite got what was being asked and went a little "sound bite" on it.

Seems to be developing so more interested what comes of it as I'm less concerned how Sunak looks than around how the people in that chaps situation get the help (parity) they seem to be asking for.

[Stev8s]

I am someone who likes Rishi and Naga and think he is doing a great job and would'nt want to be in his shoes but I am also a guy like Mark in the interview because I am a sole director and employee of a limited company I do not qualify for any help and have had no income for the last 3 months I appreciate he cannot help everyone but think maybe there could of been a fairer way of doing it lets say give everyone £1500 /month rather than some people sitting at home on 80% of their wages up to £2500 and others getting nothing to be honest I do not know what the answer is all I know is you are allowed to set up a business in these ways I pay vat I pay corporation tax yet get no help and whilst I think I am a level headed person and probably before all of this dismissed peoples mental health issues as sometimes an excuse I can see how people are massively affected by this including myself in this now.
You are encouraged to start your own business and after 7 years of building it up and through no fault of your own you can see it being taken away from under your feet and you cannot see an end to it
Too be honest not sure where I am going with it think sticking Rishi in a noisy factory wrong idea feel for him and feel for the self employed chap just think there could of been a fairer help for all in business

[Russ T Bolt]

JagLover said:

I notice you used that in brackets.

The self employed do indeed have support

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-...

Based on declared earnings. So if most of your earnings weren't declared you cannot claim now.

Those who don't get support as those earning more than £50K in profits (fair enough that might some in difficulties just over that level) and those who just started self employment.

My Wife applied, all of her earnings (£18k for the last few years) are declared, she got a message back saying she wasn't eligible, no explanation why.

[Vixpy1]

Stev8s said:

I am someone who likes Rishi and Naga and think he is doing a great job and would'nt want to be in his shoes but I am also a guy like Mark in the interview because I am a sole director and employee of a limited company I do not qualify for any help and have had no income for the last 3 months I appreciate he cannot help everyone but think maybe there could of been a fairer way of doing it lets say give everyone £1500 /month rather than some people sitting at home on 80% of their wages up to £2500 and others getting nothing to be honest I do not know what the answer is all I know is you are allowed to set up a business in these ways I pay vat I pay corporation tax yet get no help and whilst I think I am a level headed person and probably before all of this dismissed peoples mental health issues as sometimes an excuse I can see how people are massively affected by this including myself in this now.
You are encouraged to start your own business and after 7 years of building it up and through no fault of your own you can see it being taken away from under your feet and you cannot see an end to it
Too be honest not sure where I am going with it think sticking Rishi in a noisy factory wrong idea feel for him and feel for the self employed chap just think there could of been a fairer help for all in business

You can furlough yourself as a sole director of a limited company

[phil4]

In yesterday's mini-budget, maybe he can't do something for everyone.

Firstly, we're not talking about 1 or 2 edge cases, as has been said we're talking about a group with well over a million people all with the same problem.

Second, should he not be working to make sure everyone is covered? He may not be able to cover everyone day 1, or even day 2... but surely he shouldn't be resting on his laurels, saying he's done until the autumn, he should be working to ensure everyone is covered.

When we send the fire brigade in to rescue people, they don't just give up and have a cuppa, when they've rescued the first batch, they keep going until either they have got everyone or it's no longer possible. Surely it's this sort of mentality we need from the government.

[JagLover]

Russ T Bolt said:

It wasn’t at individual level though was it, he was an example of a group of more than a million people who have received no support.

What does giving £1k per employee to any business who bring staff back from furlough and keeping them for a couple of months achieve.

The house next door to me went on the market straight after lockdown, it sold within a week, does the housing market need propping up now ? What is now likely to happen is real problems next year when the stamp duty cut is lifted which will coincide with the full impact of redundancies later this year.

There is clearly going to be massive economic damage but the plan is to avoid it all arriving at once as that could put the economy into a death spiral.

If many employees are kept on for only a few more months hopefully by the time they are let go there will be more jobs available and the rest of the economy has gone back to normal, albeit in a recession.