EU and Poland
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Armchair Expert

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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I have some Polish relatives and been to Poland a few times over the years and when it first joined the EU it needed money for roads and airports and railways. It is now a well connected, modern country expected to be least effected by the virus but has once again been awarded a large hand out by the EU without having to commit to climate reforms.

So why is Poland so liked by the EU leaders?

Although I know less about the Czech Republic and Hungry again I have been to these countries and they have been invested heavily too, there are poorer areas of the EU with worse infrastructure I was going to use Wales or Cornwell as an example but they are not in the EU any more I guess, although the UK are still paying into the budget, I guess Slovakia is an example,

milkround

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103 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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If the EU stop funding poorer countries then the countries will soon realize... That the benefit to membership is that they lose their best and brightest to richer countries they can easily work in as a member. And in return they can get a cash injection.

We don't have Polish lorry drivers, forklift drivers, Police Officers or Academics (have worked with Poles in all those jobs) because we are an amazing country. Simply because we pay more.

The EU works for rich countries because they get talent on the cheap - and it works for poor countries because they get a cash handout.

That isn't really ethical on any level in my opinion. It stops the poorest countries using their young people to become independently great, and it stops the rich countries from investing in homegrown talent.

Armchair Expert

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Thursday 23rd July 2020
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milkround said:
If the EU stop funding poorer countries then the countries will soon realize... That the benefit to membership is that they lose their best and brightest to richer countries they can easily work in as a member. And in return they can get a cash injection.

We don't have Polish lorry drivers, forklift drivers, Police Officers or Academics (have worked with Poles in all those jobs) because we are an amazing country. Simply because we pay more.

The EU works for rich countries because they get talent on the cheap - and it works for poor countries because they get a cash handout.

That isn't really ethical on any level in my opinion. It stops the poorest countries using their young people to become independently great, and it stops the rich countries from investing in homegrown talent.
Poland isn't that poor, in recent years it has become considerably wealthier growing faster than most EU countries.

I know a lot of shop workers, packers, care assistants who come here to stay but many will only come here for a few years, this seems to be especially true of the Doctors, engineers and so on in my experience.

It also seems illogical to me to give a country grants in exchange for lorry drivers and fork lift operators, who need to be provided with health care, education for children, pensions, housing, roads end so on.

I seem to be the poor one in our family when I go to Poland, the whole family have top of the range Audis and BMWs including their 23 year old. When I was there last they had just bought an apartment for their 16 year old daughter for the equivelent of £70000. When I joked it is OK as they are rich my cousin turned round to me and said do you think it was easy to save up for the apartment, it took a whole year of hard saving and she was serious!

chow pan toon

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Murph7355

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Borghetto

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I was looking at a project in Katowice a few years ago and to use an analogy, it is to Krakow what Middlesborough is to Harrogate

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