Israel - UAE Peace Deal
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Solocle

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4,032 posts

108 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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BBC News

From Trump Twitter:

TriumphStag3.0V8

5,161 posts

105 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Incredible news! First (small) steps towards peace in the region?

spookly

4,375 posts

119 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Did it involve a laser hookah and a deal called "The pretty obvious if you think about it deal"?

Good news, though probably based more on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" than anything else.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

181 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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The UAE is perhaps the most Liberal of all Arab states and so making peace with Israil in reality is just ink on the page where as in reality that nation has been pretty tolerant of others for decades (waiting for some one to pipe up about workes rights, gay rights no doubt but its the ME not western Europe folks).

Saweep

6,703 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Incredible news! First (small) steps towards peace in the region?
I look forward to the media spin on this and how it's actually a terrible thing (cause trump).

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Gecko1978 said:
The UAE is perhaps the most Liberal of all Arab states and so making peace with Israil in reality is just ink on the page where as in reality that nation has been pretty tolerant of others for decades (waiting for some one to pipe up about workes rights, gay rights no doubt but its the ME not western Europe folks).
They were still funny about Israelis visiting when I was there a few years back (2014?). A kid, probably 15 years old, with an Israeli passport was refused entry. Not sure if it was a German school or sports team he was travelling with.

I think it’s pretty big news and nice to see the UAE taking the lead. I know their human rights history is atrocious, but at least they’re going in the right direction.

Octoposse

2,376 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
Incredible news! First (small) steps towards peace in the region?
No, because the UAE doesn't really have a dog in the fight to start with. And they'll probably break off relations again when Israel does something stupid.

Strange move though, that caught me by suprise. More about the politics of competition between Arab states than relationships between them and Israel?

Peace is close to impossible in the Middle East given the current imbalance of power.

Al Gorithum

4,991 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Wasn't aware that there was conflict between Israel and UAE.

Did I miss something or is this a blatant circle jerk to make look Trump look good?

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Al Gorithum said:
Wasn't aware that there was conflict between Israel and UAE.

Did I miss something or is this a blatant circle jerk to make look Trump look good?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Mabhouh

Macroni18

444 posts

69 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Good news!! Hopefully this helps in the peace process for that region. Well done to all those involved

Mastodon2

14,194 posts

189 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Great job. I'm sure the ultra-left will be along shortly to put their antisemitic spin on things, but despite what they will say, this deal is a step in the right direction.

eyebeebe

3,682 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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I‘m probably wrong, but I thought that on the Arab side Saudi Arabia was the bestest partner to the US in the region. Turning a blind eye to their general mischievous behaviour of course. Is this a shot across their bows?

LordLoveLength

2,301 posts

154 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Mastodon2 said:
Great job. I'm sure the ultra-left will be along shortly to put their antisemitic spin on things, but despite what they will say, this deal is a step in the right direction.
No mention of the deal on Corbyns Twitter (or Abbots) odd as he was always banging on about how he supported peace all his career.

z4RRSchris

12,409 posts

203 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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considering the Israelis have said they still want to annex parts of the west bank, ad have continued to build settlements in Palestinian land - this "peace deal" is simply to try and make trump look good to jewish voters pre the election.

most of the arab world would rather see isreal wiped off the face of this world

Biker 1

8,426 posts

143 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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z4RRSchris said:
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most of the arab world would rather see isreal wiped off the face of this world
Not if Israel wipes out the Shias, i.e. Iran

z4RRSchris

12,409 posts

203 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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the hate the sunni and shias have for each other only really extends to the religious nut cases and governmental power plays, the day to day man on the street couldn't really care less.

the day to day man on the street does however hate the isrealis

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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z4RRSchris said:
the hate the sunni and shias have for each other only really extends to the religious nut cases and governmental power plays, the day to day man on the street couldn't really care less.

the day to day man on the street does however hate the isrealis
I was watching a video of an Iraqi cadet who had survived a mass execution by I.S. He is Shia and he'd never lived alongside Sunnis while growing up. He says he thought the Sunnis were bad until he met and worked with some and realised they were largely good people too. He thought that there were Sunnis from the deposed regime within I.S though.

As much as it sounds a massive cliché, hearts and minds is important. To meet, to live with, to be exposed to the way of life of others and to see the good in them or the commonality.

Dr.Seuss

645 posts

72 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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A few points:

1. The UAE doesn’t practice stoning or lashing
2. The other emirates, particularly RAK and Fujairah have strong tourism sectors
3. Th Expo is cancelled and scheduled to take place from Sept 2021

Countdown

47,696 posts

220 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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eyebeebe said:
I‘m probably wrong, but I thought that on the Arab side Saudi Arabia was the bestest partner to the US in the region. Turning a blind eye to their general mischievous behaviour of course. Is this a shot across their bows?
It's possibly the most backwards regime in the whole world, the source of funding for ISIS and the home of the 9/11 terrorists.

However as long as they keep buying $billions in arms from both ourselves and the US in order to keep bombing Yemen, we'll keep turning a blind eye.

SpeckledJim

32,725 posts

277 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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Solocle said:
BBC News

From Trump Twitter:
They all want locking-up for crimes against kerning.

Jesus what a mess from the most influential nation on the planet.