BAME Network demand support for BLM & Labour
BAME Network demand support for BLM & Labour
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Smiler.

Original Poster:

11,752 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Telegraph said:
White staff at the British Library told to educate themselves about privilege and read Marxist authors.

Internal emails reveal a policy-guiding staff group claimed racial “colour blindness” and believing mankind is “one human family” are examples of “covert white supremacy”.

As an “anti-racist” antidote to perceived prejudice, resources disseminated at the library urge employees to give money to Black Lives Matter and support the work of Diane Abbott, the Labour politician.

White staff also asked “fellow white colleagues” to educate themselves with a reading list covering their purported racial privilege, and the works of Marxist authors.

Members of the Bame Network, which helped compile material seen by this newspaper, will now lead a working group steering the library’s future approach to race.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/23/britis...



Nobody saw this coming. Nosiree. Nope. Never.

I wonder how many other institutions have been affected by this sort of mindset?

scratchchin

Dagnir

2,116 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Are we sure we haven't shifted to an alternate reality?

It's gone past satire, past parody...so we're stuck living in a bizarre world where you cant even laugh at it anymore because it's becoming far too normal.

Randy Winkman

21,085 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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If it's anything like Diversity and Inclusion Groups in the government department where I work they can say as much as they like but it wont make much difference to anything. Except to wind up the Telegraph and its readers.

Smiler.

Original Poster:

11,752 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
If it's anything like Diversity and Inclusion Groups in the government department where I work they can say as much as they like but it wont make much difference to anything. Except to wind up the Telegraph and its readers.
BLM is a "wind up".

Interesting take.

Dave_90

38 posts

69 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Telegraph said:
Internal emails reveal a policy-guiding staff group claimed racial “colour blindness” and believing mankind is “one human family” are examples of “covert white supremacy”.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Is this a parody? How can the viewpoint that you treat everyone as individuals possibly be "covert white supremacy"?

Whats next, bringing back segregation?

Smiler.

Original Poster:

11,752 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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I'd posit that the BLM movement has, in the last months, been more successful in creating division than anything in the preceding 200 years.


powerstroke

10,283 posts

184 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Smiler. said:
I'd posit that the BLM movement has, in the last months, been more successful in creating division than anything in the preceding 200 years.
I agree , mind if your gravy train's days for existing were apparently numbered with most normal people becoming colour blind maybe you would start some st stirring and do your best to reset
things!! turkeys don't vote for Christmas ...

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,118 posts

126 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Smiler. said:
I'd posit that the BLM movement has, in the last months, been more successful in creating division than anything in the preceding 200 years.
Absolutely agree,

Corvid-2020

1,994 posts

103 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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With these diversity groups......................we've now a WMAM group - for white middle aged men in our work "diversity networks" on the basis that WMAMs did fall into any other group and were left feeling left out :Facepalm

WMAM lives matter doesn't quite yet have the right ring to it......

Randy Winkman

21,085 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Dave_90 said:
Telegraph said:
Internal emails reveal a policy-guiding staff group claimed racial “colour blindness” and believing mankind is “one human family” are examples of “covert white supremacy”.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Is this a parody? How can the viewpoint that you treat everyone as individuals possibly be "covert white supremacy"?

Whats next, bringing back segregation?
Because I think the Telegraph is trying to big-up the significance of some work by what I assume is an internal Diversity and Inclusion group. Which I would expect is made up of volunteers who do stuff separate from their "day jobs" which doesn't necessarily influence the policy of the organisation in question and certainly doesn't have any effect on anyone in that organisation who doesn't agree with them. I'm just saying that's how it tends to work in the civil service. i.e Someone from the The D&I group says "I think X is a big problem and we should do Y". And the other staff take it or leave it as they please.

swisstoni

22,662 posts

303 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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I would have thought they’d be concentrating on books and stuff.

Randy Winkman

21,085 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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swisstoni said:
I would have thought they’d be concentrating on books and stuff.
But don't you think that them doing good work on books is helped by having a happy and healthy workforce where each individual feels that they are fairly treated and rewarded?

swisstoni

22,662 posts

303 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
swisstoni said:
I would have thought they’d be concentrating on books and stuff.
But don't you think that them doing good work on books is helped by having a happy and healthy workforce where each individual feels that they are fairly treated and rewarded?
That would be very nice.
Doesn’t sound like what’s happening.

HappyClappy

953 posts

97 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Same thing happening in Whitehall...

https://thecritic.co.uk/blm-is-a-politically-conte...

williamp

20,131 posts

297 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Maybe we should all re-watch the bbc podcast where they answer the question on how Karens can educate themselves...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjpr-No8ck

Smiler.

Original Poster:

11,752 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
Dave_90 said:
Telegraph said:
Internal emails reveal a policy-guiding staff group claimed racial “colour blindness” and believing mankind is “one human family” are examples of “covert white supremacy”.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Is this a parody? How can the viewpoint that you treat everyone as individuals possibly be "covert white supremacy"?

Whats next, bringing back segregation?
Because I think the Telegraph is trying to big-up the significance of some work by what I assume is an internal Diversity and Inclusion group. Which I would expect is made up of volunteers who do stuff separate from their "day jobs" which doesn't necessarily influence the policy of the organisation in question and certainly doesn't have any effect on anyone in that organisation who doesn't agree with them. I'm just saying that's how it tends to work in the civil service. i.e Someone from the The D&I group says "I think X is a big problem and we should do Y". And the other staff take it or leave it as they please.
You must have missed this bit:

Members of the Bame Network, which helped compile material seen by this newspaper, will now lead a working group steering the library’s future approach to race.

Andeh1

7,512 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Smiler. said:
I'd posit that the BLM movement has, in the last months, been more successful in creating division than anything in the preceding 200 years.
Absolutely agree,
Yup, fully agree.

Europa1

10,923 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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I'd be interested to know why white staff are being told to read stuff by Marxist authors, given that Karl Marx was, ummm, quite white?

I could understand then being told to read more material by BAME authors, but if they are seriously being told to read more Marxist texts, I am concerned, given it is our national library.

230TE

2,506 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Interesting weekend. This story, the BBC floating the idea of dropping Rule Britannia and Land of Hope and Glory from the Proms, and a head of department at the National Trust suggesting that people should be discouraged from driving to visit the places of which it is the custodian. What I am seeing is an increasingly wide gap, now a veritable chasm, between what one might call the decision-making classes, and those on whose behalf the decisions are made. Very roughly, the dividing line is marked by a respectable degree from a decent university, and I would put the split at 80:20, largely because sweeping generalisations tend to follow the 80/20 Pareto distribution smile

People who went to good universities enjoy talking about intersectionality, misgendering and white privilege. They love this stuff. WE love this stuff (I am, by education and upbringing, very much one of the 20%). The rest of the population, not so much. This widening fault line in society is already having some interesting consequences, including ex-miners in the North-East voting for an Eton-educated Tory on the basis that he seemed to be the only party leader who was interested in anything the 80% had to say. I cannot remember any previous point in my lifetime where I felt the leaders of our institutions were quite so utterly clueless about what is going on outside their comfortable little groupthinking bubble, and I don't see things getting better any time soon. The decision-makers are desperately, hopelessly in love with themselves

55palfers

6,282 posts

188 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
swisstoni said:
I would have thought they’d be concentrating on books and stuff.
But don't you think that them doing good work on books is helped by having a happy and healthy workforce where each individual feels that they are fairly treated and rewarded?
I bet people in the workforce haven't been fairly treated and rewarded since before the Spinning Jenny.