What the hell is wrong with this guy?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...
Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...
Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
Are you able to explain why you think he needs stopping?Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
To me it sounds like an exciting, albeit not new, piece of research.
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...
Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
What's wrong Jeff? Having problems with your rockets?Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.
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The thing is he promises so many things that don’t actually happen, though I accept some do. .
It’s reported that “Musk did not present any scientific data to support his claims about the pigs or the devices“.
Anyway, I thought he’d done the pig with a microchip a couple of years ago, called it the Model 3.

Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.
Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
People would be in for a shock if they realised just how many products they use are developed through animal testing.Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
CubanPete said:
REALIST123 said:
The thing is he promises so many things that don’t actually happen, though I accept some do.
As someone who works in R&D, that is how it works.... I.e Loads of stuff doesn't work ! if we knew how to do it we'd be doing it already. The bloke is a mentalist.
Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.
Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
I think his ambitions are a more along the lines of STEM in the film Upgrade rather than helping paralysed people.Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
Jader1973 said:
Brads67 said:
I'm pretty sure no will be want him stopped when he manages to create an implant that restores movement to paralysed people.
Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
I think his ambitions are a more along the lines of STEM in the film Upgrade rather than helping paralysed people.Some folk would still burn witches if they got the chance.
I would have been all for this twenty years ago, but seeing how badly society has handled mobile internet access and social media, the idea of having a mobile in my head with access to my brain and nervous system strikes me as a really poor idea.
I'm unsure if Musk is an example of a genius or just what happens when you give a stubborn sci-fi enthusiast $100-odd Million to blow on their pet projects. He's certainly more interesting than Bezos or Gates, but I'm not sure that's enough to change the world.
Edited by glazbagun on Sunday 30th August 03:59
Is there a lot of difference in the theory behind this chip and current bionic limbs? Just controlled directly from the brain and with more potential applications.
I think it'll be one of those things that is quiet for a few years and then explodes when its potential is realised (if it gets off the ground).
I'm sure there would be some perfectly abled people who would be interested as well. You could turn off your smart lights just by thinking about it
I think it'll be one of those things that is quiet for a few years and then explodes when its potential is realised (if it gets off the ground).
I'm sure there would be some perfectly abled people who would be interested as well. You could turn off your smart lights just by thinking about it

Snake oil bulls
t - not the very basic aspect of the implants, more the promise of the magic implant machine and especially all the things it'll supposedly be able to cure via 'software'. Literal snake oil sales stuff.
Demo seems to have been a bit smoke and mirrors too - the (meaningless) sensors stuff on the screen not always matching the things happening to the pig (same actions not always triggering a readout) let alone the beepity boop that depended on where the camera was looking... About as real as the original solar tile unveil.
Plus the 'move fast and break things' dev stuff doesn't work for surgical devices, a more careful approach is needed. Maybe that's why almost all the original team had quit by the time we got the demo.
It's not a surprise some people fall for this stuff but right now it's more or less just Theranos Mk2.
t - not the very basic aspect of the implants, more the promise of the magic implant machine and especially all the things it'll supposedly be able to cure via 'software'. Literal snake oil sales stuff.Demo seems to have been a bit smoke and mirrors too - the (meaningless) sensors stuff on the screen not always matching the things happening to the pig (same actions not always triggering a readout) let alone the beepity boop that depended on where the camera was looking... About as real as the original solar tile unveil.
Plus the 'move fast and break things' dev stuff doesn't work for surgical devices, a more careful approach is needed. Maybe that's why almost all the original team had quit by the time we got the demo.
It's not a surprise some people fall for this stuff but right now it's more or less just Theranos Mk2.
GappySmeg said:
Are you able to explain why you think he needs stopping?
To me it sounds like an exciting, albeit not new, piece of research.
Because cretins sTo me it sounds like an exciting, albeit not new, piece of research.
t their pants when they see change coming they dont understand even though it could benefit quite a lot of people. This, GMO's, RNA therapies etc. Lets face it we've been successfully using vaccines for centuries yet elements of the media lead idiots around by the noses against it to a point where we are getting out breaks of diseases that should have been stamped out by now.
A500leroy said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-5395668...
Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
There were probably people like you back in the late 1950's, when a cochlear implant was first invented.Its like a Dr Who episode where they create the cybermen!! He needs stopping.
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