How to keep up with the news without the Mainstream Media?
How to keep up with the news without the Mainstream Media?
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I've been appalled recently by the quality of reporting of the Covid crisis by the mainstream media. The quality of journalism in most of the MSM seems little short of the gutter these days, mostly sensationalism with little room for critical thought and analysis.

Our local paper has been even worse still, actively bias and seeking to stir up bad feeling in the community. It focuses on the negative and personally I'm not interested in hearing about whether or not some bloke did or did not spit at a policeman, whether or not the people brawling outside the chip shop on Friday end up in jail, how our young people with their BBQ on the beach will kill all our old people with Covid, or how some NIMBY locals object to the latest plans for some affordable and well designed housing on the front page.

Therefore I think it's time for my own mental health to remove myself from the influence of the MSM and instead seek out some different alternatives from both the left and right leaning spectrum (always useful to have balance).

So far I quite like https://unherd.com/ for the quality of the journalism. The Spectator seems pretty good although is quite right leaning. The Economist has had some well researched articles recently. Are there any other suggestions though? Anything that focuses on positive news rather than negative news?

Basically it would be nice to keep up with what's going on in the world, with science and technology, latest trends in politics and business, the environment etc, but at a higher level of journalism, and without all the knee jerk, click-bait sensationalism that has become so prevalent over the last few years.

Smollet

15,494 posts

214 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I just make it up and post on Facebook. Works for me

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Smollet said:
I just make it up and post on Facebook. Works for me
At all costs I want to avoid any news posted on Facebook. I'm not on Facebook anyway so I suppose than counts?

Bandit110

315 posts

128 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I'm in a similar position, constantly know I'm uninformed on local and national news as I find every news outlet exactly as you mentioned, but I suppose drama sells.

The free Metro paper seems about the best option for me, plenty of non-news but a good paper. I only ever read it to the midpoint where it tales off with adverts and tat.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.

If you want unbiased I'd probably look to the likes of Reuters or the AP.

JagLover

46,201 posts

259 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Andy20vt said:
So far I quite like https://unherd.com/ for the quality of the journalism. The Spectator seems pretty good although is quite right leaning. The Economist has had some well researched articles recently. Are there any other suggestions though? Anything that focuses on positive news rather than negative news?
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I think you are on the right track with the Spectator and unherd. The Spectator in particular has been one of the few outlets providing objective reporting on Covid-19.

Yes the Spectator is clearly right leaning, no news source is free from bias. I am afraid I cannot recommend a similar left leaning publication/website that will reliably provide news rather than opinion, but that is not to say one isn't out there.

irc

9,412 posts

160 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.

If you want unbiased I'd probably look to the likes of Reuters or the AP.
Reuters is owned by the Rothschild family.
I wouldn’t have it down as a paragon of virtue

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.
Nope, exactly the opposite. Journalism that will challenge the popular narrative and help me expand my mind.

Biker 1

8,426 posts

143 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I find this outlet very informative, but Middle East centric: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/home.html

robuk

2,512 posts

214 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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How much do you currently pay (say a month over the last year) for the journalism that you consume, and how much are you willing to pay?

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Andy20vt said:
bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.
Nope, exactly the opposite. Journalism that will challenge the popular narrative and help me expand my mind.
Then honestly read as much and as many as you can and form a view from the sum total.

But whatever your views around "MSM" do keep in mind they are subject to regulation unlike some of the more wild wild west corners of the internet.

egomeister

7,525 posts

287 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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The issue I find with the MSM is that it is all to often opinion dressed up as reporting, and as such has a tendency toward being factual but not truthful.

Unherd, the Spectator and Spiked are at least opinion presenting as opinion. Whilst the Spectator is undoubtedly a right leaning publication I find them pretty good at allowing alternative viewpoints to be voiced.

OP: I can't really contribute any particular sources as I've mostly stopped bothering seeking news out. I think you can do a pretty good job with a carefully curated twitter account, following only specific people/writers you find offer valuable takes and being unafraid to cull anyone who you think is exhibiting too much bais or not contributing to the quality of your feed.

EW109

320 posts

164 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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Try this as an experiment.

Identify a topic you know about. Read an article in any paper on that subject. Identify the errors, over-simplifications, and elisions (and there will be many). Now assume that an article on a topic you do not know about contains the same number of errors, etc.

RDM

1,860 posts

231 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I usually just watch Al Jazeera for news. It appears to me that they just report news as opposed to the other outlets who just give their opinion on what they deem to be news followed, in the BBC’s case, with mindless drivel usually about their own bbc “personalities”.

Terzo123

4,668 posts

232 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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I ditched the BBC news app a few months back. The constant bombardment of left wing, "right on" topics was a joke.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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1974nc said:
bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.

If you want unbiased I'd probably look to the likes of Reuters or the AP.
Reuters is owned by the Rothschild family.
I wouldn’t have it down as a paragon of virtue
Sorry you've lost me on that one confused

paulguitar

34,043 posts

137 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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bhstewie said:
1974nc said:
bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.

If you want unbiased I'd probably look to the likes of Reuters or the AP.
Reuters is owned by the Rothschild family.
I wouldn’t have it down as a paragon of virtue
Sorry you've lost me on that one confused
They are probably in on the 'reset'. scratchchin

limpsfield

6,610 posts

277 months

Saturday 12th September 2020
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1974nc said:
bhstewie said:
Respectfully it reads a bit like you're asking for sources you agree with.

If you want unbiased I'd probably look to the likes of Reuters or the AP.
Reuters is owned by the Rothschild family.
I wouldn’t have it down as a paragon of virtue
Where do you get this gem from?