I like this guy.. Doris is getting internal heat..
I like this guy.. Doris is getting internal heat..
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W11PEL

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1,034 posts

187 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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A fine speech in the Commoms.

All spot on. Doris is a shill stooge. He needs to go.

https://youtu.be/jqIYDTIdg2o

powerstroke

10,283 posts

184 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Good hope there is more common sense and proportion from others on both sides of the house , mind I would guess Witless and that other bellend are praying for more covid cases and deaths to justify their doom mongering.. surely they need to go ??

W11PEL

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1,034 posts

187 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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They indeed need to go.

Doris is a globalist and his agenda is not in the interests of the general populace.

Covid is all about control and the new order. Nice to see some backbone pushing back internally.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

184 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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The worms are turning ....... hopefully!!!

Lotobear

8,702 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Fantastic speech, offers a glimmer of hope in these (politically) dark times

DeejRC

8,811 posts

106 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Good grief. Have a word with yourselves chaps and just listen to what you said. Witless and that other bellend? You mean two blokes who have no political remit and through no great desire of their own been thrust into the public limelight - are in fact just evil or morons?
Whatsmore they present a scenario based on pandemic modelling - that may happen. I must have missed the bit where they said it WILL happen. They simply laid out less desirable futures if measures were not taken. Then quite clearly said it was upto the politicians to decide what to do, not them.

Now some Harry Enfield lookalike wide boy stands up and says they are only interested in fear? Their remit is public health, they gave their position and then stood back. That was it!

Now Boris is apparently Doris. He is also evil apparently for NOT preferring outright business capitalist stuff and instead trying to balance public health and economic stuff. Let me guess...he would also be evil if he followed just the economic health and said it fk it, who cares if some old gits die?

I’m not say Boris is batting at the top of his game, but he’s not exactly out for a duck either. Nor is he seeking to control the world.

LimSlip

800 posts

78 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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W11PEL said:
Doris is a globalist and his agenda is not in the interests of the general populace.

Covid is all about control and the new order. .
Give your head a bloody wobble. This conspiracy crap just makes you look like a paranoid fool.

W11PEL

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

187 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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LimSlip said:
W11PEL said:
Doris is a globalist and his agenda is not in the interests of the general populace.

Covid is all about control and the new order. .
Give your head a bloody wobble. This conspiracy crap just makes you look like a paranoid fool.
We'll see about that Mr Troll as time rolls on.



Sway

33,805 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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W11PEL said:
They indeed need to go.

Doris is a globalist and his agenda is not in the interests of the general populace.

Covid is all about control and the new order. Nice to see some backbone pushing back internally.
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?

LimaDelta

7,950 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Sway said:
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?
The general population has become immune to normal chemtrails so it is no longer worthwhile to operate the global airline industry and CCTV recognition software has not proven as reliable as initial predictions, therefore it has been necessary to create a global pandemic so they can force 'vaccinate' us with mind control drugs and have us install a tracking app on our phones instead. The answers are right in front of you, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!11!!!

GT03ROB

13,993 posts

245 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Sir Desmond is my MP. He’s bit of a character.

Sleeping during a speech by Ken Clarke on Brexit; suggesting the rough end of a pineapple is used to get people back to work; speaking from the wrong side of the house; blackface.

Lotobear

8,702 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Sway said:
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?
I don't buy the conspiracy theory but it seems pretty clear (to me) that Boris and his cohorts have completely mishandled CV19 and that masks are largely political and a means of maintaining the narrative adopted last lockdown that this is an existential crisis. They can now say if the death rate continues to fall that it's 'cos masks' or in the alternative then "just think how bad it could have been if we didn't mandate nappies". Purely political in my view and an attempt to get themselves off the hook.

At the start of this the celebrity medics (Hilary, Jarvis et al) were 100% clear that masks did nothing and now they seem to have become the front line weapon of choice - never saw the scientific study which changed all of that. We are all being played and it continues to amaze me how meekly everyone has surrendered to this.

My family is full of medics (I'm not one) and to a tee they all think its a gross over reaction.

Hoofy

79,501 posts

306 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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LimaDelta said:
Sway said:
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?
The general population has become immune to normal chemtrails so it is no longer worthwhile to operate the global airline industry and CCTV recognition software has not proven as reliable as initial predictions, therefore it has been necessary to create a global pandemic so they can force 'vaccinate' us with mind control drugs and have us install a tracking app on our phones instead. The answers are right in front of you, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!11!!!
Yes, once the BillBots are inside you, they will stop you from approaching the ice walls and discovering the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gogoplata

1,272 posts

184 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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LimaDelta said:
Sway said:
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?
The general population has become immune to normal chemtrails so it is no longer worthwhile to operate the global airline industry and CCTV recognition software has not proven as reliable as initial predictions, therefore it has been necessary to create a global pandemic so they can force 'vaccinate' us with mind control drugs and have us install a tracking app on our phones instead. The answers are right in front of you, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!11!!!
Not to mention all the 5G WMDs that the government installed on all the lampposts whilst we were all locked down in our houses. There're probably a fail safe to zap our minds if the mind control vaccine doesn't work.

I blame the Rothschilds.

Sway

33,805 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Lotobear said:
Sway said:
So where's the upside/opportunity for this "new order"?

Why would thousands of medics lie and support this "new order" conspiracy?

There are real conspiracies. Every single one has a clear motive, and a relatively small number of engaged involved individuals perpetrating it.

This doesn't meet those criteria.

What possible benefit is there for enforcing mask wearing in public (when the powers that be have spent years spending millions on cctv/facial recognition/etc.)?
I don't buy the conspiracy theory but it seems pretty clear (to me) that Boris and his cohorts have completely mishandled CV19 and that masks are largely political and a means of maintaining the narrative adopted last lockdown that this is an existential crisis. They can now say if the death rate continues to fall that it's 'cos masks' or in the alternative then "just think how bad it could have been if we didn't mandate nappies". Purely political in my view and an attempt to get themselves off the hook.

At the start of this the celebrity medics (Hilary, Jarvis et al) were 100% clear that masks did nothing and now they seem to have become the front line weapon of choice - never saw the scientific study which changed all of that. We are all being played and it continues to amaze me how meekly everyone has surrendered to this.

My family is full of medics (I'm not one) and to a tee they all think its a gross over reaction.
Yet Germany, and plenty of other nations are doing exactly the same thing with masks...

Again, I just cannot see any real differentiator nor any particular signs of conspiracy or cover up.

Lotobear

8,702 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Sway said:
Yet Germany, and plenty of other nations are doing exactly the same thing with masks...

Again, I just cannot see any real differentiator nor any particular signs of conspiracy or cover up.
Sure, like you I don't see a conspiracy but I do perceive rank incompetence and something of a lemming mentality - UK has to do the same as everyone else and visa versa so as not to be singled out - the media seem to be running the show not in a conspiratorial sense just because they can and pumping up the fear 'sells'

Sway

33,805 posts

218 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Lotobear said:
Sway said:
Yet Germany, and plenty of other nations are doing exactly the same thing with masks...

Again, I just cannot see any real differentiator nor any particular signs of conspiracy or cover up.
Sure, like you I don't see a conspiracy but I do perceive rank incompetence and something of a lemming mentality - UK has to do the same as everyone else and visa versa so as not to be singled out - the media seem to be running the show not in a conspiratorial sense just because they can and pumping up the fear 'sells'
German rules seem to have come in after the UK's.

Once again, I really don't see any example of exceptionalism (either positive or negative) for the UK in it's response and actions compared to the wider world.

LimSlip

800 posts

78 months

Wednesday 30th September 2020
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W11PEL said:
We'll see about that Mr Troll as time rolls on.
I'm the troll and yet you are the one parroting ridiculous, unsubstantiated conspiracy BS?

W11PEL

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

187 months

Wednesday 30th September 2020
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Yep I think you’re a troll.

I’m allowed my own opinion. I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I’m seeing a massive nefarious land grab on many levels. You obviously don’t.

The only BS I see is what’s being spewed my the MSM 24/7.

Edited by W11PEL on Wednesday 30th September 13:24

KAgantua

5,103 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th September 2020
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Great work Sir Desmond Swayne
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