Sacked for Christian views
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surveyor_101

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5,069 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!


deadslow

8,757 posts

247 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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I wouldn't want someone so biased towards unfounded beliefs teaching my kids

parabolica

6,967 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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She wasn't sacked for her christian views; she was sacked for saying something that was potentially discriminatory and inflammatory and could bring the school into disrepute.

My cousin is a Teacher and avoids posting on all social media exactly for this reason; as far as he's concerned it doesn't matter what any teacher or person with duty of care in the education sector says on social media, there will be people out there who will make a mountain out of a mole hill.


BlackTank

187 posts

167 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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I don't want this judgmental Karen anywhere near children. And lot of chuckles at the OP's snowflake nazism. She did something against the rules and got fired for it and you go running to a car board begging for sympathy and pity for your views. Man up.

The Brummie

9,424 posts

211 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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parabolica said:
She wasn't sacked for her christian views; she was sacked for saying something that was potentially discriminatory and inflammatory and could bring the school into disrepute.

My cousin is a Teacher and avoids posting on all social media exactly for this reason; as far as he's concerned it doesn't matter what any teacher or person with duty of care in the education sector says on social media, there will be people out there who will make a mountain out of a mole hill.
My sister is a teacher. She also does not do any social media because she knows that one wrong & her job/reputation is toast.

A sad state of affairs in today’s crappy society.



aizvara

2,067 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!
I don't know what her facebook posts said, but if one's view is that gay and transgender peoples' relationships are not (to paraphrase the BBC article) "equally valid and 'normal'", then you are quite strongly implying that those people are also somehow less valid than straight/non transgender people.
I don't think that's quite the final solution yet, but the line of thinking is unpleasant and unchristian.

Pica-Pica

16,143 posts

108 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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BlackTank said:
I don't want this judgmental Karen anywhere near children. And lot of chuckles at the OP's snowflake nazism. She did something against the rules and got fired for it and you go running to a car board begging for sympathy and pity for your views. Man up.
Ha. A teacher friend (A) of my wife’s complained that her (A) son had been told to ‘man up’.
Can you say ‘Man up’ nowadays? If you oppose this lady’s views, yet still say ‘man up’, well, have a word with yourself.
As for stating ‘running to a car board begging for sympathy’, I despair.

Rivenink

4,292 posts

130 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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So let me get this straight:

a) Someone on her personal friends list dobbed her in.
b) Her employer jumped at the chance to get rid of her.


Seems like people the people that know her don't like her very much.

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

67 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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aizvara said:
surveyor_101 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!
I don't know what her facebook posts said, but if one's view is that gay and transgender peoples' relationships are not (to paraphrase the BBC article) "equally valid and 'normal'", then you are quite strongly implying that those people are also somehow less valid than straight/non transgender people.
I don't think that's quite the final solution yet, but the line of thinking is unpleasant and unchristian.
Are LBGT relationships "normal" ? (I'm sure a very interesting question to debate).


Surely normal means that , that is what the majority do.

They are not to be discriminated against, of course.
It's certainly acceptable.
And I have no problems with them personally.

But I wouldn't say it's "normal".

Anything could be seen as transphobic or homophobic, it seems if you disagree then you are labelled as such.



deadslow

8,757 posts

247 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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320d is all you need said:
Are LBGT relationships "normal" ? (I'm sure a very interesting question to debate).


Surely normal means that , that is what the majority do.

They are not to be discriminated against, of course.
It's certainly acceptable.
And I have no problems with them personally.

But I wouldn't say it's "normal".

Anything could be seen as transphobic or homophobic, it seems if you disagree then you are labelled as such.
I hope you are not a teacher. 'Now children, these people aren't normal. but we can't call them names...'

DeWar

906 posts

70 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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320d is all you need said:
Are LBGT relationships "normal" ? (I'm sure a very interesting question to debate).


Surely normal means that , that is what the majority do.

They are not to be discriminated against, of course.
It's certainly acceptable.
And I have no problems with them personally.

But I wouldn't say it's "normal".

Anything could be seen as transphobic or homophobic, it seems if you disagree then you are labelled as such.
I don’t agree that the definition of normality equates to the majority. Otherwise left-handedness would be abnormal.

Homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom and as far as I’m aware it’s been practised across cultures throughout the course of human history. I’d say that makes it perfectly normal.

Edited by DeWar on Wednesday 7th October 19:22

CoreyDog

872 posts

114 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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I've never understood the Fundamentalist Christian views that homosexuality is "wrong", "abnormal" etc.

Only real mention is Leviticus that also says eating shellfish is wrong and abnormal, as is shaving... Anyone here ever been accosted by a Bible thumper due to being clean shaven? Didn't think so.

Also, lets be honest now, Jesus certainly comes across as alittle gay... Never married, no kids, no mention of a relationship with a women, spent alot of time hanging out with the same 12 guys, kisses Judas, seems to prefer wine to beer and likes his body being eaten by many Catholic men on a Sunday...

As for the rather daft ex-teacher, she got everything she deserved.

jondude

2,433 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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From time to time I work in schools giving lectures and a show about Viking history.

Teacher staff rooms can be full of extreme views although yes, left to loony left does seem the norm (London area).

I think we would be better off allowing full and total free speech but educating kids to have a critical mind. The difficulty of course is when they are ready for extreme views?

I can remember a teacher reading a story where the roles were reversed - the hero was a girl soldier and the man stayed at home doing the cleaning.

She then asked questions about the soldier girl and house husband but the kids every time - without fail - changed the gender back when answering. They would say 'he was in the war' or 'she was taking care of the home'

The teacher - an openly gay lesbian - went ballistic at them and blamed it on me being in the classroom!!

The kids were only year 2.

Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!
Still taking those remedial English lessons, 101?

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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surveyor_101 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!
That might be because the views of this person may align with your own extremely reactionary and narrow minded views, which you regale us with on a regular basis. Your thread title is inaccurate. The teacher was sacked for being a bigot, not for being a Christian.

Rivenink

4,292 posts

130 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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320d is all you need said:
aizvara said:
surveyor_101 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestersh...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/chris...

Quite concerning I can find anything offensive in her facebook posts and to call the neo -nazi which seems to be the reaction if the left liberals if you view doesn't align with them they can brand and belittle you as a nazi!
I don't know what her facebook posts said, but if one's view is that gay and transgender peoples' relationships are not (to paraphrase the BBC article) "equally valid and 'normal'", then you are quite strongly implying that those people are also somehow less valid than straight/non transgender people.
I don't think that's quite the final solution yet, but the line of thinking is unpleasant and unchristian.
Are LBGT relationships "normal" ? (I'm sure a very interesting question to debate).


Surely normal means that , that is what the majority do.

They are not to be discriminated against, of course.
It's certainly acceptable.
And I have no problems with them personally.

But I wouldn't say it's "normal".

Anything could be seen as transphobic or homophobic, it seems if you disagree then you are labelled as such.
The problem with "normal" is that its a statistical term... and whats the saying? Lies, damn lies and statistics?

The normal part only refers to a specific thing, but colloquially, is often used to judge someone as a whole, usually in a positive light. And similarly its antonym, abnormal when used to describe someone usually results in them viewed in a negative light.

Most people don't really give a st about cars. It's abnormal to be a petrolhead. But I doubt many here would appreciate being called "abnormal" based on that one fact alone.

Abnormal has some rather unpleasant synonyms, some of which are used as insults at LGBT people. So if someone accuses you of being homophobic or transphobic, its because the words you use are laden with prejudice, either directly or indirectly.

And besides, once could quite easily say that its normal for humans to form close relationships with another human, and then we're all normal, arn't we?

Statistics eh...

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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CoreyDog said:
I've never understood the Fundamentalist Christian views that homosexuality is "wrong", "abnormal" etc.

Only real mention is Leviticus that also says eating shellfish is wrong and abnormal, as is shaving... Anyone here ever been accosted by a Bible thumper due to being clean shaven? Didn't think so.

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Paul of Tarsus, AKA Saint Paul, is mainly to blame for this. He was possibly a repressed gay man. He was a homophobe, and a misogynist as well. He started his career as a persecutor of Christians, but later became the chief theorist of Christianity. If not for Paul, Jesus would now be a forgotten man - an obscure Jewish heretic/mystic. The religion should be called Paulism.

One thing that the big three Abrahamic faiths have in common is a fear and hatred of human sexuality. They really are gloomy, inhumane death cults.

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Why is this in SPL? Purple-faced why oh why oh why rants are for NPE, surely?

CoreyDog

872 posts

114 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
Paul of Tarsus, AKA Saint Paul, is mainly to blame for this. He was possibly a repressed gay man. He was a homophobe, and a misogynist as well. He started his career as a persecutor of Christians, but later became the chief theorist of Christianity. If not for Paul, Jesus would now be a forgotten man - an obscure Jewish heretic/mystic. The religion should be called Paulism.

One thing that the big three Abrahamic faiths have in common is a fear and hatred of human sexuality. They really are gloomy, inhumane death cults.
That would certainly explain so much about the Church in all its forms.

I'd agree with Ghandi when he said "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians, your Christians are so unlike your Christ"

A guy teaching love, peace, acceptance and respect I can support. An organisation teaching division, homophobia, selfishness and mysogyny, I'll pass.

The Rotrex Kid

34,074 posts

184 months

Wednesday 7th October 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
Why is this in SPL? Purple-faced why oh why oh why rants are for NPE, surely?
Quite!

Idiot gets sacked for being an idiot. Quelle Surprise!