‘Patriot Muster’ protestor shooting in the US
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A protestor shot in the US by a ‘security guard’ of a camera crew covering an event in Denver....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8827241/P...
The truly remarkable photo that was taken shows the moment the fatal shot was fired...
Take a close look, you can see the handgun is in the process of ejecting the spent cartridge which can be seen just coming out of the firearm, the gun is recoiling upwards, and within the spray of the mace is the smoke trail from the bullet.
I wonder if a hi res image would actually catch the bullet in flight....
Photo would be Pulitzprize material in the past. America today, nearing failed state?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8827241/P...
The truly remarkable photo that was taken shows the moment the fatal shot was fired...
Take a close look, you can see the handgun is in the process of ejecting the spent cartridge which can be seen just coming out of the firearm, the gun is recoiling upwards, and within the spray of the mace is the smoke trail from the bullet.
I wonder if a hi res image would actually catch the bullet in flight....
Photo would be Pulitzprize material in the past. America today, nearing failed state?
Denver Post has the story
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/10/denver-prote...
https://www.denverpost.com/
Getty has images showing the "Pinkerton Security Contractor Working Protection Detail for a 9News Producer was physically Assaulted prior to drawing his firearm. "
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/10/denver-prote...
https://www.denverpost.com/
Getty has images showing the "Pinkerton Security Contractor Working Protection Detail for a 9News Producer was physically Assaulted prior to drawing his firearm. "
Shooting someone at close range because of a little bit of slapping and a can of what looks like pepper spray in the middle of a street seems like an overreaction.
It wasn't exactly a 'fear for your life' scenario.
Though you can imagine some of the sorts who go into working in close protection...
It wasn't exactly a 'fear for your life' scenario.
Though you can imagine some of the sorts who go into working in close protection...
I’ll start by saying that this is a tragic and pointless loss of life in my view.
From a general British perspective, using a gun would seem to be a hugely disproportionate response.
However, from a US perspective isn’t this why they say they need guns? When a larger guy causes trouble, and you need to defend yourself?
From a general British perspective, using a gun would seem to be a hugely disproportionate response.
However, from a US perspective isn’t this why they say they need guns? When a larger guy causes trouble, and you need to defend yourself?
Getragdogleg said:
Is the dead person left or right wing? Outcomes and amount of public indignation will vary depending on this.
Closer than you might think I suspect.I can't believe how f
ked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Closer than you might think I suspect.
I can't believe how fked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.
And more than that, that a film crew in a first world country felt they needed (and were probably right...) an armed guard.I can't believe how f
ked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.Stupid and tragic in equal measure.
Bill said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Closer than you might think I suspect.
I can't believe how fked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.
And more than that, that a film crew in a first world country felt they needed (and were probably right...) an armed guard.I can't believe how f
ked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.Stupid and tragic in equal measure.
Imagine getting in a fight let alone actually shot over any of that.
pquinn said:
Shooting someone at close range because of a little bit of slapping and a can of what looks like pepper spray in the middle of a street seems like an overreaction.
It wasn't exactly a 'fear for your life' scenario.
Though you can imagine some of the sorts who go into working in close protection...
He was attacked with a weapon. He had a better weapon.It wasn't exactly a 'fear for your life' scenario.
Though you can imagine some of the sorts who go into working in close protection...
As the alternative was to continue being attacked I think the court will find self defence.
Bill said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Closer than you might think I suspect.
I can't believe how fked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.
And more than that, that a film crew in a first world country felt they needed (and were probably right...) an armed guard.I can't believe how f
ked up a culture can be that you have two dudes in the street carrying mace and guns and both are almost certainly acting entirely legally.Stupid and tragic in equal measure.
It's impossible to do so because we just don't have a culture of "just popping out dear" "OK do you have your gun and Mace spray just in case?".
I thought that over here Mace is literally in the same category as a firearm and you can do serious time for that s
t so I'm not sure I'd want some dude coming at me with it with no idea what else he has on him and what his intention is.Something is very wrong in that country.
It is a completely different mindset.
When I was in the cadets we went to a civvy indoor range to shoot pistols and our .303s and the instructor had his pistol in a holster on his hip the entire time. It was absolutely nothing to do with why we were there, and even as a gun obsessed teenager I remember thinking it was a bit odd.
When I was in the cadets we went to a civvy indoor range to shoot pistols and our .303s and the instructor had his pistol in a holster on his hip the entire time. It was absolutely nothing to do with why we were there, and even as a gun obsessed teenager I remember thinking it was a bit odd.
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