Extra for parking a diesel!
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Lambeth has really got it in for you drivers. I can't believe that they now charge extra to park if a car/truck/van has a non compliant diesel engine. Not drive, but park!
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/pts...
And now they will be banning vehicles from some roads in Streatham Hill.
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/pts...
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking-transport-and-s...
Crazy
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/pts...
And now they will be banning vehicles from some roads in Streatham Hill.
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/pts...
https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking-transport-and-s...
Crazy
Interesting that the order states the extra charge is for diesel cars which do not meet euro 6 but then says post 2015 cars comply.
I suspect the parking charge signs will say the extra charge applies to diesels older than 2015, yet by their own order any euro6 compliant car [such as my 2014 mercedes] should not have to pay.
I suspect the parking charge signs will say the extra charge applies to diesels older than 2015, yet by their own order any euro6 compliant car [such as my 2014 mercedes] should not have to pay.
Councils are being boxed in regarding funding though. Councils have been pushed to look at other ways of getting income. Emissions based charging isn't limited to Lambeth.
It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
Ian Geary said:
Councils are being boxed in regarding funding though. Councils have been pushed to look at other ways of getting income. Emissions based charging isn't limited to Lambeth.
It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
Brighton, and then Brighton and Hove, council did this when I lived there. Cars were heavily penalised. My feelings on the matter were mixed. Such moves lowered my council tax, and I only went into Brighton centre rarely. Cars were seen as a cash cow, and were milked accordingly.It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
It's, ironically, backfired a bit now as the influx of cars is down to a trickle and income has suffered. I've moved and have not visited the city in over two years, despite living within a dozen miles, apart from going to Brighton Football Club's ground which only just creeps where the A23 meets the A27.
Why should I go further, only to be hammered for parking and sent a tortuous route just to get near where I want to go?
CO2 based charges for PARKING!!!
When we lived in Twickenham, about 8 years ago, Richmond council did this based on CO2 emmisions. Some residents paved over their gardens to build driveways, and others chose to drive their cars to work instead of parking on the road and taking the train.
Personally, I used to pay about £70 a year for a parking permit, even though I had a drive - sometimes it's convenient to park on the road - for example when we have visitors and can't be faffed with the scratch-permit. We had either the Lexus RX or Discovery 4.4 V8 at the time with CO2 up in the 300s. I just stopped renewing and parked on the drive until the council gave up with the idea as it was nonsense!
When we lived in Twickenham, about 8 years ago, Richmond council did this based on CO2 emmisions. Some residents paved over their gardens to build driveways, and others chose to drive their cars to work instead of parking on the road and taking the train.
Personally, I used to pay about £70 a year for a parking permit, even though I had a drive - sometimes it's convenient to park on the road - for example when we have visitors and can't be faffed with the scratch-permit. We had either the Lexus RX or Discovery 4.4 V8 at the time with CO2 up in the 300s. I just stopped renewing and parked on the drive until the council gave up with the idea as it was nonsense!
NMNeil said:
I wonder how the parking attendants will know which cars are in compliance and which are not.
But looking at the various orders you may one day have a big sign saying "Welcome to Lambeth, no cars allowed"
They won’t, they will just go on 2015 onwards. Hence my comment about the discrepancy between the Euro6 compliance in the council order and the 2015 date they quote.But looking at the various orders you may one day have a big sign saying "Welcome to Lambeth, no cars allowed"
From the bad parking thread:
Aiminghigh123 said:
MellowshipSlinky said:
A Winner Is You said:
Remember when we all got told to buy diesels, since they emitted less CO2 so were better for the environment?
Didn’t company car drivers who chose a derv also get a reduced BIK rate?
Then also - same with Petrol!
Pesty said:
Well If all you planet killers bought electric cars all these taxes would disappear.
Really 
Just looking at an estimate yesterday to future proof about 35 sites for 100% EV capability and the price was approx £350 million squiddlies
when I asked the senior chap he mentioned that's a drop in the ocean compared to what it's going to cost to roll out EV charging but it's going to be done at whatever cost it seems.Makes HS2 look a bargain.
You need to pay for it somehow. What amazed me more was the blokes completely blase attitude to any kind of cost. It's happening whatever.
Derek Smith said:
Ian Geary said:
Councils are being boxed in regarding funding though. Councils have been pushed to look at other ways of getting income. Emissions based charging isn't limited to Lambeth.
It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
Brighton, and then Brighton and Hove, council did this when I lived there. Cars were heavily penalised. My feelings on the matter were mixed. Such moves lowered my council tax, and I only went into Brighton centre rarely. Cars were seen as a cash cow, and were milked accordingly.It offers some advantages:
- the ability to raise cash from a captive audience (especially in the capital, or places with lack of off street parking)
- quite easy to predict income
-pretty easy to collect and enforce
- can be green washed as politically acceptable and / or, is genuinely something a council is doing to tackle the climate emergency (delete as necessary depending where you sit on the green spectrum)
Obviously it's a political gamble for the councillors.
Definitely a taste of things to come I think though.
It's, ironically, backfired a bit now as the influx of cars is down to a trickle and income has suffered. I've moved and have not visited the city in over two years, despite living within a dozen miles, apart from going to Brighton Football Club's ground which only just creeps where the A23 meets the A27.
Why should I go further, only to be hammered for parking and sent a tortuous route just to get near where I want to go?
Fortunately I'm now working from home every day so no longer have to make a commute and when I drive around I tend to skirt around the city centre rather than going through it which really helps keep my sanity.
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