council's buying booze/mobile's for the homeless.
council's buying booze/mobile's for the homeless.
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discusdave

Original Poster:

412 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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i was quite astonished to be honest the numbers obviously don't add up but how do we feel about this use of tax payers cash ?


https://www.southendstandard.co.uk/news/18826537.s...

Tom Logan

3,872 posts

149 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Rightly so.

Drumroll

4,381 posts

144 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Why is the buying of alcohol to give to alcoholics any different from buying methadone for drug addicts?


Electro1980

8,934 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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They were people at risk of death from alcohol withdrawal. What else do you expect the council to do? Say, fk it, let them die?

discusdave

Original Poster:

412 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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did their benefits stop ?

what else did they do to (fund) their habits? ..i have two single mums on my street they get zero help from the "council". why ?




discusdave

Original Poster:

412 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Drumroll said:
Why is the buying of alcohol to give to alcoholics any different from buying methadone for drug addicts?

because methadone is NOT heroin !!! it's a treatment widely accepted to actually help no ?

booze is a killer is methadone ?

Drumroll

4,381 posts

144 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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discusdave said:
Drumroll said:
Why is the buying of alcohol to give to alcoholics any different from buying methadone for drug addicts?

because methadone is NOT heroin !!! it's a treatment widely accepted to actually help no ?

booze is a killer is methadone ?
As already pointed out to you, if an alcoholic suddenly doesn't get their fix, they can die. Methodone is used to replace heroin. There is little else a council could give an alcoholic.

As for your other comment. there will always be gaps in the system. That is how a lot of homeless people ended up homeless in the first place.

discusdave

Original Poster:

412 posts

217 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Drumroll said:
As already pointed out to you, if an alcoholic suddenly doesn't get their fix, they can die. Methodone is used to replace heroin. There is little else a council could give an alcoholic.

As for your other comment. there will always be gaps in the system. That is how a lot of homeless people ended up homeless in the first place.
if an alcoholic keeps drinking they will die, oh yes there just gaps in the system.

Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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fk me ! The outrage on here is quite something to behold.

So the council spent £120 on alcohol for people who were isolating during lockdown based on medical advice and to avoid the risk of dying from alcohol withdrawal.

Some of you lot need to get a grip. You'll drown in your own froth if you're not careful.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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£120 thats a lot of frosty jacks

Rivenink

4,292 posts

130 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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What is a human life worth?

B'stard Child

30,828 posts

270 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Rivenink said:
What is a human life worth?
Really depends where in the world you are

Currency exchange rates and all that stuff

poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Red 4 said:
fk me ! The outrage on here is quite something to behold.

So the council spent £120 on alcohol for people who were isolating during lockdown based on medical advice and to avoid the risk of dying from alcohol withdrawal.

Some of you lot need to get a grip. You'll drown in your own froth if you're not careful.
I’m inclined to agree. It may look bad with hindsight, in the paper etc, but unlikely it was a decision made frivolously and in what are somewhat unusual circumstances ?

Homelessness is a complex problem, as is alcoholism. And indeed we have a rather complex situation with this pandemic. Put it all together and I can see hindsight maybe making things look clearer than they were at the time.

wisbech

4,002 posts

145 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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discusdave said:
if an alcoholic keeps drinking they will die, oh yes there just gaps in the system.
?? It is the other way round, for some people they die if they stop drinking - happened to a colleague of mine. Some alcoholics' brains produce extra serotonin to compensate for the alcohol. When the alcohol is removed 'cold turkey', this means excess serotonin, which fries the brain.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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I thought there were prescription drugs they can give to alcoholics to stop the dangerous alcohol withdrawal symptoms?

Probably more expensive than just giving them booze though.

Housing them and giving them addiction treatment should be the preferred option rather than the short term idea of more booze.

Ari

19,768 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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discusdave said:
i have two single mums on my street they get zero help from the "council". why ?

You'd need to ask them that, not us, surely? confused

Masses of 'help' for women with kids, kids are pretty much the ultimate guarantee of it. If they're not getting any, there must be a very good reason.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Psycho Warren said:
I thought there were prescription drugs they can give to alcoholics to stop the dangerous alcohol withdrawal symptoms?

Probably more expensive than just giving them booze though.

Housing them and giving them addiction treatment should be the preferred option rather than the short term idea of more booze.
Benzos are used for alcohol withdrawal, but that's just inviting further problems.
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Hereward

4,956 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Rivenink said:
What is a human life worth?
Less than a cartoon drawing.

FunkyNige

9,737 posts

299 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Red 4 said:
fk me ! The outrage on here is quite something to behold.

So the council spent £120 on alcohol for people who were isolating during lockdown based on medical advice and to avoid the risk of dying from alcohol withdrawal.

Some of you lot need to get a grip. You'll drown in your own froth if you're not careful.
What outrage? It's just the OP who's outraged, everyone else seems fairly OK with it unless there are some deleted posts I missed?

JuniorD

9,013 posts

247 months

Thursday 29th October 2020
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Red 4 said:
fk me ! The outrage on here is quite something to behold.

So the council spent £120 on alcohol for people who were isolating during lockdown based on medical advice and to avoid the risk of dying from alcohol withdrawal.

Some of you lot need to get a grip. You'll drown in your own froth if you're not careful.
This!

Unless I'm getting the wrong end of the stick "more than £120" does not mean 1000s, or Millions, but about £120.01 - £125.00 ish. On homeless unfortunates who clearly needed it.

Personally, looking at the apostrophes in the thread title, I'm more outraged at the public money evidently squandered on the OP's education.