Pandemic censorship
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No, not another Covid thread per-se; one to capture and discuss the increasing number of instances where credible but inconveniently challenging narrative is being sidelined or suppressed.
Let’s have them... I’ll start with the Great Barrington Declaration being suppressed by Google, then the Restore the Balance group suffering the same fate at the end of last week, and now Yeadon’s interview being tagged by FB as fake news...
Let’s get a sense of where the threshold of acceptability for dissenting voices is being drawn and who’s doing the drawing.
Let’s have them... I’ll start with the Great Barrington Declaration being suppressed by Google, then the Restore the Balance group suffering the same fate at the end of last week, and now Yeadon’s interview being tagged by FB as fake news...
Let’s get a sense of where the threshold of acceptability for dissenting voices is being drawn and who’s doing the drawing.
All of the mainstream media are being censored by Ofcom -
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
grumbledoak said:
All of the mainstream media are being censored by Ofcom -
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
grumbledoak said:
All of the mainstream media are being censored by Ofcom -
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
Make sure a dictionary is on your Christmas list!
Pupp said:
No, not another Covid thread per-se; one to capture and discuss the increasing number of instances where credible but inconveniently challenging narrative is being sidelined or suppressed.
Let’s have them... I’ll start with the Great Barrington Declaration being suppressed by Google, then the Restore the Balance group suffering the same fate at the end of last week, and now Yeadon’s interview being tagged by FB as fake news...
Let’s get a sense of where the threshold of acceptability for dissenting voices is being drawn and who’s doing the drawing.
How is Google suppressing the Great Barrington Declaration?Let’s have them... I’ll start with the Great Barrington Declaration being suppressed by Google, then the Restore the Balance group suffering the same fate at the end of last week, and now Yeadon’s interview being tagged by FB as fake news...
Let’s get a sense of where the threshold of acceptability for dissenting voices is being drawn and who’s doing the drawing.
Sophisticated Sarah said:
rscott said:
I seem to remember that when it started picking up increased numbers of signatures, google gave it a firebreak by hiding it in searches.https://theberkshireedge.com/filmmaker-aims-to-red...
I joined "Christians Against Dinosaurs" on Facebook . . . . thought it might be entertaining (it wasn't - my head nearly exploded trying to work out who was really frothing about 'big Paleo', and who was 'aving a larf. . .).
Anyway, if you tried putting forward the views of 95,000 scientists, that would be triumphantly trumped with a YouTube video by a convicted criminal who once ran a theme park, explaining why the scientists are wrong.
MMR vaccination, the Holocaust . . . not claiming that whether to lockdown or not is in QUITE the same category, but actually the problem is not how much s
te is filtered out, but how little?
Anyway, if you tried putting forward the views of 95,000 scientists, that would be triumphantly trumped with a YouTube video by a convicted criminal who once ran a theme park, explaining why the scientists are wrong.
MMR vaccination, the Holocaust . . . not claiming that whether to lockdown or not is in QUITE the same category, but actually the problem is not how much s
te is filtered out, but how little?Edited by Octoposse on Monday 2nd November 09:46
grumbledoak said:
All of the mainstream media are being censored by Ofcom -
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
Cheers grumbledoak and thank you for the link, most interesting!!!https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
No wonder my 80+ year old mum thinks the world is about to end having been fed a steady stream of full fat BBC propaganda for the past year. I keep telling her but she says it's the BBC so has to be true - I despair!
[quote=Octoposse]I joined "Christians Against Dinosaurs" on Facebook . . . . thought it might be entertaining (it wasn't - my head nearly exploded trying to work out who was really frothing about 'big Paleo', and who was 'aving a larf. . .).
I'm a Christian, they're in my bible, I'd love to argue both sides at the same time
I'm a Christian, they're in my bible, I'd love to argue both sides at the same time
dundarach]ctoposse said:
I joined "Christians Against Dinosaurs" on Facebook . . . . thought it might be entertaining (it wasn't - my head nearly exploded trying to work out who was really frothing about 'big Paleo', and who was 'aving a larf. . .).
I'm a Christian, they're in my bible, I'd love to argue both sides at the same time
Wait, what's in your Bible? Christians or dinosaurs?I'm a Christian, they're in my bible, I'd love to argue both sides at the same time
Not really censorship but BBC news seem to be having a nightly 2 minutes of hate against coronavirus non-believers where they interview someone (on the 3 occasions I've seen this it's been an overweight older person with health conditions), who miraculously returned from near coronavirus death. After a few unpleasantries about how awful it was and how they missed their family, the masked reporter, in a deep, serious voice asks message they have for those who *still* aren't taking it seriously.
I find it comical, like a sort of Monty Python skit of Radio Moscow, but people seem to be lapping this nonsense up.
I find it comical, like a sort of Monty Python skit of Radio Moscow, but people seem to be lapping this nonsense up.
I hope nonsense like this gets censored (shared on a local FB page):
Lockdown! If you are a small business you DO NOT have to just roll over and close. Asking you to close is simply an OFFER !!!!!!!
Liverpool gym owners said NO and they are still open !
Put the government on notice of "conditional acceptance" NOW.
This is the highest form of honour, they have made you an OFFER you have ACCEPTED it under CONDITIONS, the ball is then in their court, they MUST rebut your points with clear factual evidence.
I'm even going to write it for you.....
1) A document that shows and provides scientific evidence of the testing procedure being used in this country that 100% positively identifies Covid19 otherwise known as Sars cov2 not ANY other type of coronavirus in a living being beyond any reasonable doubt.
2) You can guarantee and prove that the test being used to justify these "guidelines" will not give a false positive result.
3) Evidence that this is Law, because it clearly says "guidelines".
4) A copy of the two way contract signed by BOTH parties where I agreed to follow these "guidelines"
5) The government website clearly states Covid19 is no longer considered a HCID, please provide scientific proof of it being highly contagious.
6) Please clearly define what you mean by a "public health threat".
7) Can you confirm the current medical threat to a normal healthy individual (under 75) and confirm how many critically ill healthy people without any underlying conditions (only) there are in ICU so I can make an informed decision on these "guidelines".
8 What grounds does an alleged "public health threat" which was downgraded in severity levels in March become of higher importance than the long term threat I face in terms of mental and financial ruin?
9) Are you willing to accept full liability for any/ all financial, physical and/or mental health problems brought on by following this guideline and closing my business?
10) Please confirm that these guidelines have been through a risk assessment and will protect me from mental and financial ruin.
11) Please present me with a copy of the "guidelines" and show me where it specifically names my business.
12) Where there is no victim there is no crime.
Please explain to me how I am breaking the law by not following these "guidelines" .
Only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a proper and verfied reply.
It must be supported by an affidavit with a full legible, title, wet signature, name and address, signed and sworn or affirmed as being true, correct, complete, certain and on full commercial liability and on penalty of perjury.
Any correspondence must only be sent by registered mail.
All questions 1-12 MUST be answered clearly.
If no reply in the correct manner is received within seven (7) days it is thereby taken as your assent and agreement.
Signed
END- OF- NOTICE.
Send to your local MP, have a copy on display in your premises and have copies to show should you be visited by the police.
- **copied****
Lockdown! If you are a small business you DO NOT have to just roll over and close. Asking you to close is simply an OFFER !!!!!!!
Liverpool gym owners said NO and they are still open !
Put the government on notice of "conditional acceptance" NOW.
This is the highest form of honour, they have made you an OFFER you have ACCEPTED it under CONDITIONS, the ball is then in their court, they MUST rebut your points with clear factual evidence.
I'm even going to write it for you.....
- *************************************
1) A document that shows and provides scientific evidence of the testing procedure being used in this country that 100% positively identifies Covid19 otherwise known as Sars cov2 not ANY other type of coronavirus in a living being beyond any reasonable doubt.
2) You can guarantee and prove that the test being used to justify these "guidelines" will not give a false positive result.
3) Evidence that this is Law, because it clearly says "guidelines".
4) A copy of the two way contract signed by BOTH parties where I agreed to follow these "guidelines"
5) The government website clearly states Covid19 is no longer considered a HCID, please provide scientific proof of it being highly contagious.
6) Please clearly define what you mean by a "public health threat".
7) Can you confirm the current medical threat to a normal healthy individual (under 75) and confirm how many critically ill healthy people without any underlying conditions (only) there are in ICU so I can make an informed decision on these "guidelines".
8 What grounds does an alleged "public health threat" which was downgraded in severity levels in March become of higher importance than the long term threat I face in terms of mental and financial ruin?
9) Are you willing to accept full liability for any/ all financial, physical and/or mental health problems brought on by following this guideline and closing my business?
10) Please confirm that these guidelines have been through a risk assessment and will protect me from mental and financial ruin.
11) Please present me with a copy of the "guidelines" and show me where it specifically names my business.
12) Where there is no victim there is no crime.
Please explain to me how I am breaking the law by not following these "guidelines" .
Only a reply that meets the following criteria qualifies as a proper and verfied reply.
It must be supported by an affidavit with a full legible, title, wet signature, name and address, signed and sworn or affirmed as being true, correct, complete, certain and on full commercial liability and on penalty of perjury.
Any correspondence must only be sent by registered mail.
All questions 1-12 MUST be answered clearly.
If no reply in the correct manner is received within seven (7) days it is thereby taken as your assent and agreement.
Signed
END- OF- NOTICE.
Send to your local MP, have a copy on display in your premises and have copies to show should you be visited by the police.
Pupp said:
No, not another Covid thread per-se; one to capture and discuss the increasing number of instances where credible but inconveniently challenging narrative is being sidelined or suppressed.
I was going to mention David Icke being perma-banned from Twitter for spreading covid misinformation but I noticed you said 'credible', so he doesn't apply.JuanCarlosFandango said:
Not really censorship but BBC news seem to be having a nightly 2 minutes of hate against coronavirus non-believers where they interview someone (on the 3 occasions I've seen this it's been an overweight older person with health conditions), who miraculously returned from near coronavirus death. After a few unpleasantries about how awful it was and how they missed their family, the masked reporter, in a deep, serious voice asks message they have for those who *still* aren't taking it seriously.
The fear bias is so obvious. The other night they trotted out and 85+ fella to say how bad it was. The title was something like my grandad nearly died. Not 85 year old survives. At 85 a fall can kill you.
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