Time to Stop Releasing Terrorists Early?
Discussion
Heard on the news the terrorist murderer in Vienna was released early from jail last year having passed a de-radicalisatkion program. Obviously these programmes are useless and easy to cheat.
The London Bridge killer had also completed two of these courses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50653191
Is it time we stopped early release for terrorists?
The London Bridge killer had also completed two of these courses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50653191
Is it time we stopped early release for terrorists?
What alternatives are there?
Under our current laws it seems that 50% of your sentence is served 'inside', do we lock up those who disagree with what we call western values for their entire sentence, effectively ignoring the de radicalisation programme.
Deport them to countries they were not born in, or continue to exhibit those western values and afford them equal treatment and accept the downside of those who continue to re offend on release.
Tough question.
Under our current laws it seems that 50% of your sentence is served 'inside', do we lock up those who disagree with what we call western values for their entire sentence, effectively ignoring the de radicalisation programme.
Deport them to countries they were not born in, or continue to exhibit those western values and afford them equal treatment and accept the downside of those who continue to re offend on release.
Tough question.
stitched said:
do we lock up those who disagree with what we call western values for their entire sentence
I think it's not so much about western values, as being found guilty of a crime proscribed as terrorism - that's when a different approach is needed.For example, I believe if you are found guilty of a (non-terrorist) murder then you are on licence for the rest of your life even after release? So there is a precedent for treating the criminal's future differently for different types of crime?
It does seem to crop up not infrequently that a terrorist has been previously found guilty of terrorist crime.
If you take that argument, and I can see why you would, shouldn't we just keep all criminals in till the end of there sentence? Terrorist reoffenders are just another type of criminal recidivist. Perhaps we need to look at the type of re-education all prisoners get and the kind of society they are released into?
biggbn said:
If you take that argument, and I can see why you would, shouldn't we just keep all criminals in till the end of there sentence? Terrorist reoffenders are just another type of criminal recidivist. Perhaps we need to look at the type of re-education all prisoners get and the kind of society they are released into?
I think there are some sorts of crime where rehabilitation simply cannot work. I put these into the below categories. 1. nonces
2. terrorists
ReallyReallyGood said:
Just build a specialist prison for them. The cost to not keep them locked up is much greater.
Could even turn Isle of White into our Guantanamo.
Ahem, it's the Isle of Wight! Either way, they don't deserve to be used as a penal colony for your 'specialist prison'!Could even turn Isle of White into our Guantanamo.
Simple solutions are sometimes staring us in the face but the politicians are blind to the majority of the public applying common sense and a common purpose for the preferred way of life in this country.
It will get much worse before ... etc!
Holy selective quoting.
What is a terrorist?
Someone who bombs a Japanese whaling ship?
Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter the commons with honest intent?
A french resistance fighter?
A muslim?
Personally I would lock up any person attacking the general population for the rest of their natural, deport any you legally can.
However that would be against the legalities of our country, do I want to change those legal protections due to a few nutters?
Changes which could then be applied to me for protesting against things I disagree with, No.
What is a terrorist?
Someone who bombs a Japanese whaling ship?
Guy Fawkes, the only man to enter the commons with honest intent?
A french resistance fighter?
A muslim?
Personally I would lock up any person attacking the general population for the rest of their natural, deport any you legally can.
However that would be against the legalities of our country, do I want to change those legal protections due to a few nutters?
Changes which could then be applied to me for protesting against things I disagree with, No.
Welshbeef said:
I think there are some sorts of crime where rehabilitation simply cannot work. I put these into the below categories.
1. nonces
2. terrorists
I admit to not knowing the statistics, but I remember watching a programme that suggested UK falls between two stools in that it neither punishes nor rehabilitate its prisoners and the re-offending rate is pretty horrendous across the board. 1. nonces
2. terrorists
stitched said:
moles said:
Death penalty
Puts us right in the 'moral correctness' corner does that.
Stoning?
Burning at the stake?
Hanging?
Flensing?
Possibly electric chair?
Any preference?
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Welshbeef said:
biggbn said:
If you take that argument, and I can see why you would, shouldn't we just keep all criminals in till the end of there sentence? Terrorist reoffenders are just another type of criminal recidivist. Perhaps we need to look at the type of re-education all prisoners get and the kind of society they are released into?
I think there are some sorts of crime where rehabilitation simply cannot work. I put these into the below categories. 1. nonces
2. terrorists
Rapists too
I’m still with the “we will wrap your corpse or bits of it in bacon. And pigs cocks inserted into every hole” inside a lead body bag enclosed in concrete in an unmarked grave - just so that you will be so repugnant to you God - they will never let you in.
If that is what it takes to deter the brain dead - so be it.
The western world will ensure you never meet Mo or Allah or get virgins.
They will be disgusted by you and for all eternity - you will never get in.
If that is what it takes to deter the brain dead - so be it.
The western world will ensure you never meet Mo or Allah or get virgins.
They will be disgusted by you and for all eternity - you will never get in.
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