Putin to step down as russian president

[ruggedscotty]

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/vladimir-putin-plann...

Its looking grim for russia, It appears that Putin has a serious disease and as a result there is discussions that he may step down.... in the coming year.

[anonymous-user]

ruggedscotty said:

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/vladimir-putin-plann...

Its looking grim for russia, It appears that Putin has a serious disease and as a result there is discussions that he may step down.... in the coming year.

Maybe trump can take over?

[PeteinSQ]

ruggedscotty said:

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/vladimir-putin-plann...

Its looking grim for russia, It appears that Putin has a serious disease and as a result there is discussions that he may step down.... in the coming year.

Whilst grim for Putin why is that grim for Russia? Maybe they could tranisition to being an actual democracy? As to his push for lifetime immunity from prosecution for all ex-Presidents - what does that say about him and what he has been up to?

[Tannedbaldhead]

Was watching a documentary recently with a "careful what you wish for" theme.
Apparently Putin is a pragmatic moderate by Russian standards.
Russia has its fair share of Trump-like nutters with a lot of popular support. Watching a rally calling for the re-establishment of the borders of the old Soviet Empire was frightening.
If you think US Evangelical Baptists are scary assed you should see radical Russian Orthodox.

[LordGrover]

TASS denying it.

[Eric Mc]

They thought he'd drunk the wrong cup of tea by accident.

[Escapegoat]

That might explain this story - new law planned so that Russian ex-Presidents can't be prosecuted for crimes even after they leave office.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-russia-politics-...

Wonder if Trump's already got Giuliani working on an English translation, ready to pass before January?

[anonymous-user]

Tannedbaldhead said:

Was watching a documentary recently with a "careful what you wish for" theme.
Apparently Putin is a pragmatic moderate by Russian standards.
Russia has its fair share of Trump-like nutters with a lot of popular support. Watching a rally calling for the re-establishment of the borders of the old Soviet Empire was frightening.
If you think US Evangelical Baptists are scary assed you should see radical Russian Orthodox.

I'm going to go for 'be careful what you wish for' as well.

Putin is a murdering dictator, but he's kept Russia 'under control' for 20 years.

[BlackLabel]

It would be poetic justice if someone like Putin, who has used nerve agents to target his opponents, ends up contracting a neurological disorder himself.

[Drezza]

Haven't we seen similar "awful" leaders being removed and anarchy ensues: Gaddafi and Hussain for example, both horrible nutters but kept it somewhat stable until they were killed. Putin could've been a lot worse for Russia, I don't think he's done too bad tbf.

[motco]

The NY Post is a bit of a dodgy source. Here's another story

[aeropilot]

Tannedbaldhead said:

Was watching a documentary recently with a "careful what you wish for" theme.
Apparently Putin is a pragmatic moderate by Russian standards.
Russia has its fair share of Trump-like nutters with a lot of popular support. Watching a rally calling for the re-establishment of the borders of the old Soviet Empire was frightening.
If you think US Evangelical Baptists are scary assed you should see radical Russian Orthodox.

If true (and that remains to be seen), who follows him could be far, far worse for the rest of the world.

[Escapegoat]

Drezza said:

Haven't we seen similar "awful" leaders being removed and anarchy ensues: Gaddafi and Hussain for example, both horrible nutters but kept it somewhat stable until they were killed. Putin could've been a lot worse for Russia, I don't think he's done too bad tbf.

Same for Stalin, amirite?

[768]

Ill, sure, voluntarily relinquishing power? Seems unlikely.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

They thought he'd drunk the wrong cup of tea by accident.

Probably trying some radiation treatment with Polonium 210.

[Wacky Racer]

BlackLabel said:

It would be poetic justice if someone like Putin, who has used nerve agents to target his opponents, ends up contracting a neurological disorder himself.

Those two men had come from Russia to visit Salisbury cathedral because they had heard how nice it was.

[DeejRC]

Wacky Racer said:

BlackLabel said:

It would be poetic justice if someone like Putin, who has used nerve agents to target his opponents, ends up contracting a neurological disorder himself.

Those two men had come from Russia to visit Salisbury cathedral because they had heard how nice it was.

Well Putin certainly didn't send them. Putin and his operations are competent.

Russia is very much, if not a "friend", an enemy of my enemy. Putin's Russia is something that suits us in the geopolitical world as it currently is.

The world is already living in enough interesting times without anybody having grand ideas about making it more interesting!

[pquinn]

Tannedbaldhead said:

Apparently Putin is a pragmatic moderate by Russian standards.

One day more people will realise the difference between a clever person playing the role of strongman leader to stay in power, and the actual hardline nutter you can have who really are like that.

Putin at least is actually sane.

[glazbagun]

Lord Marylebone said:

I'm going to go for 'be careful what you wish for' as well.

Putin is a murdering dictator, but he's kept Russia 'under control' for 20 years.

By Russian standards he's not even especially murderous! Just a dabble here and there...

He was also fairly smoothly into the job, iirc. Former PM was sacked and Putin given the nod. Since then the whole system has been about him.

[Escapegoat]

DeejRC said:

Putin and his operations are competent.

That's just not true, no matter how many movies Hollywood makes about Russian special ops as some sort of unstoppable killing machines.

Just remember how much of London was covered in an irradiated trail thanks to the bungling of the Litvinenko murderers. Then there's Khangoshvili (Germany) where the assassin has been caught, Gebrev (Bulgaria) where the assassins have been identified, the Montenegro coup debacle, the attempt to spy on the OPCW where 4 GRU agents were caught red-handed in Holland, the appalling SNAFU when the FSB gassed the besieged Moscow theatre.

These are just the ones that I remember. Look at any of the Bellingcat investigations and you will see that those supposed master spies even keep taxi receipts to/from Lubyanka HQ!