Stonehenge Tunnel
Discussion
Those preferred bidders seem to be mostly foreign companies. Not being xenophobic, but surely government spending post pandemic should benefit the British economy by using British contractors?
News article says
As previously reported, the three shortlisted contracting groups are:
BMJV, comprising Bouygues Travaux Publics and J Murphy & Sons;
HDJV, consisting of Hochtief Infrastructure GmbH and Dragados;
MORE JV, comprising FCC Construcción (42.5%), Salini Impregilo (42.5%) and BeMo Tunnelling UK (15%).
News article says
As previously reported, the three shortlisted contracting groups are:
BMJV, comprising Bouygues Travaux Publics and J Murphy & Sons;
HDJV, consisting of Hochtief Infrastructure GmbH and Dragados;
MORE JV, comprising FCC Construcción (42.5%), Salini Impregilo (42.5%) and BeMo Tunnelling UK (15%).
Edited by 4Q on Thursday 12th November 15:59
stevep944 said:
The billions this is costing would be better spent on getting the NHS in good shape and to catch up on the covid affected waiting lists
Or paying off the Covid incurred borrowing before worldwide interests rates rise in years to come and ruin us, turning us into a 3rd world country, where we have no healthcare at all. stevep944 said:
The billions this is costing would be better spent on getting the NHS in good shape and to catch up on the covid affected waiting lists
Unfortunate linking of two big black holes there. You could give the NHS the entire GDP and it would still be inefficient. Giving it more money just perpetuates the inefficiency.But the tunnel would be a big improvement. I do agree it should be awarded to a UK firm if possible.
4Q said:
Those preferred bidders seem to be mostly foreign companies. Not being xenophobic, but surely government spending post pandemic should benefit the British economy by using British contractors?
News article says
As previously reported, the three shortlisted contracting groups are:
BMJV, comprising Bouygues Travaux Publics and J Murphy & Sons;
HDJV, consisting of Hochtief Infrastructure GmbH and Dragados;
MORE JV, comprising FCC Construcción (42.5%), Salini Impregilo (42.5%) and BeMo Tunnelling UK (15%).
Large tunnelling projects are international in nature these days, due to the specialist knowledge and equipment required. If the much needed (and overdue) tunnel had been built when it was first proposed, Brunel could have been a bidder!News article says
As previously reported, the three shortlisted contracting groups are:
BMJV, comprising Bouygues Travaux Publics and J Murphy & Sons;
HDJV, consisting of Hochtief Infrastructure GmbH and Dragados;
MORE JV, comprising FCC Construcción (42.5%), Salini Impregilo (42.5%) and BeMo Tunnelling UK (15%).
Edited by 4Q on Thursday 12th November 15:59
Get on with it!
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Stonehenge tunnel, HS2, 3rd LHR runway......wouldn't it be prudent to shelve all of this stuff until we know what the world looks like post Covid, and how much travel is actually required?
3rd runway......I can see Heathrow shutting down the second runway
Agreed on HS2 and LHR but we have desperately needed the Stonehenge tunnel for years and whatever happens to WFH there are still going to be more people using the A303 at that point than the capacity there is currently available. 3rd runway......I can see Heathrow shutting down the second runway
JagLover said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Stonehenge tunnel, HS2, 3rd LHR runway......wouldn't it be prudent to shelve all of this stuff until we know what the world looks like post Covid, and how much travel is actually required?
3rd runway......I can see Heathrow shutting down the second runway
Agreed on HS2 and LHR but we have desperately needed the Stonehenge tunnel for years and whatever happens to WFH there are still going to be more people using the A303 at that point than the capacity there is currently available. 3rd runway......I can see Heathrow shutting down the second runway
I used to have to be subjected to do the halfwits stopping on the 303 to have a look and take photos on a daily basis. It only takes a small minority to soon cause carnage.
A much cheaper and effective way of stopping fools being fools would be to put up 30 foot fencing so you can’t see the old stones from the road. It would mean people drove in a normal manner without huge costs.
That being said... the road often gets busy even without the idiots. So maybe a normal bypass or extending the number of lanes would be a good move. You don’t need a tunnel though - it’s not exactly built up there.
A much cheaper and effective way of stopping fools being fools would be to put up 30 foot fencing so you can’t see the old stones from the road. It would mean people drove in a normal manner without huge costs.
That being said... the road often gets busy even without the idiots. So maybe a normal bypass or extending the number of lanes would be a good move. You don’t need a tunnel though - it’s not exactly built up there.
pequod said:
Large tunnelling projects are international in nature these days, due to the specialist knowledge and equipment required. If the much needed (and overdue) tunnel had been built when it was first proposed, Brunel could have been a bidder!
Get on with it!
This has been going on for YEARS .Get on with it!
The road could have been just widened sunken down a bit , and then tall screening to stop rubber necking .
I seem to remember the plan was to cut and cover as opposed to a tunnel .
milkround said:
I used to have to be subjected to do the halfwits stopping on the 303 to have a look and take photos on a daily basis. It only takes a small minority to soon cause carnage.
A much cheaper and effective way of stopping fools being fools would be to put up 30 foot fencing so you can’t see the old stones from the road. It would mean people drove in a normal manner without huge costs.
That being said... the road often gets busy even without the idiots. So maybe a normal bypass or extending the number of lanes would be a good move. You don’t need a tunnel though - it’s not exactly built up there.
I believe there is a tunnel precisely because a normal bypass would do too much damage to the site. A much cheaper and effective way of stopping fools being fools would be to put up 30 foot fencing so you can’t see the old stones from the road. It would mean people drove in a normal manner without huge costs.
That being said... the road often gets busy even without the idiots. So maybe a normal bypass or extending the number of lanes would be a good move. You don’t need a tunnel though - it’s not exactly built up there.
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