Arise, Sir Lewis? Will Hamilton be Knighted?
Discussion
I think he should.
It seems the main sticking point is his tax status however should this really exclude him from such an honour?
“ Boris Johnson is under mounting pressure to recommend Hamilton becomes Sir Lewis after he sealed his record-equalling seventh Formula One world championship.
The Telegraph understands Hamilton will be considered for a knighthood in the New Year Honours, but it may require an intervention by the Prime Minister for him to receive one.
Otherwise, the 35-year-old faced having to wait until next year – or even until he retired – to be nominated for a knighthood, with the New Year Honours list having been compiled before his historic triumph on Sunday.
An exception may have to be made to add his name to it because of a limit on the number of knighthoods and damehoods that can be awarded each year and a reluctance to bestow them on sportspeople who are still competing.
Any nomination would also mean the vetting of Hamilton’s tax affairs by HM Revenue & Customs, which has a traffic light system for approving honours.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2020/11/16/l...
It seems the main sticking point is his tax status however should this really exclude him from such an honour?
“ Boris Johnson is under mounting pressure to recommend Hamilton becomes Sir Lewis after he sealed his record-equalling seventh Formula One world championship.
The Telegraph understands Hamilton will be considered for a knighthood in the New Year Honours, but it may require an intervention by the Prime Minister for him to receive one.
Otherwise, the 35-year-old faced having to wait until next year – or even until he retired – to be nominated for a knighthood, with the New Year Honours list having been compiled before his historic triumph on Sunday.
An exception may have to be made to add his name to it because of a limit on the number of knighthoods and damehoods that can be awarded each year and a reluctance to bestow them on sportspeople who are still competing.
Any nomination would also mean the vetting of Hamilton’s tax affairs by HM Revenue & Customs, which has a traffic light system for approving honours.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2020/11/16/l...
Cold said:
Why? Knighthoods are often only given for areas outside of the nominee's workplace. Being good at your job doesn't automatically mean you should be put forward for a Knighthood.
So is it often given or only given?As often only given mean they can be given for workplace recognition.
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
I think it is too soon. No doubt he is a brilliant racing driver, and deserving of an honour - but with all sports people I believe it should be awarded once they have retired.
In the past that’s been the case but in recent years we’ve seen the likes of Andy Murray, Mo Farah, Alistair Cook, Bradley Wiggins etc all knighted in their 30s and before they had even retired from their respective sports.BlackLabel said:
In the past that’s been the case but in recent years we’ve seen the likes of Andy Murray, Mo Farah, Alistair Cook, Bradley Wiggins etc all knighted in their 30s and before they had even retired from their respective sports.
This, I have never understood why motorsports never get the recognition in the same way as the Olympic sports do in this country. BlackLabel said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
I think it is too soon. No doubt he is a brilliant racing driver, and deserving of an honour - but with all sports people I believe it should be awarded once they have retired.
In the past that’s been the case but in recent years we’ve seen the likes of Andy Murray, Mo Farah, Alistair Cook, Bradley Wiggins etc all knighted in their 30s and before they had even retired from their respective sports.Bit strange for a country to honour someone who has deliberately not paid tax in that country don't you think?
Andeh1 said:
What's he done outside of f1? (genuine question).
He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
Same with Andy Murray and many others. He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
Should he be knighted ?
As a sportsman. .. yes, fantastic achievement
As someone who has left the country and become a tax exile ... questionable
As someone who has become highly politicised and is promoting a very divisive movement which is now a political party that is anarchist, Marxist and wishes to overthrow western Governments the possibility of embarrassing HMG is far too great .. absolutely not
As a sportsman. .. yes, fantastic achievement
As someone who has left the country and become a tax exile ... questionable
As someone who has become highly politicised and is promoting a very divisive movement which is now a political party that is anarchist, Marxist and wishes to overthrow western Governments the possibility of embarrassing HMG is far too great .. absolutely not
JagLover said:
BlackLabel said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
I think it is too soon. No doubt he is a brilliant racing driver, and deserving of an honour - but with all sports people I believe it should be awarded once they have retired.
In the past that’s been the case but in recent years we’ve seen the likes of Andy Murray, Mo Farah, Alistair Cook, Bradley Wiggins etc all knighted in their 30s and before they had even retired from their respective sports.Bit strange for a country to honour someone who has deliberately not paid tax in that country don't you think?
Andeh1 said:
What's he done outside of f1? (genuine question).
He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
Yes he has, two off the top of my head are unicef and great ormond street and I think there are a few others. He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
Something like Google might help your question.
Andeh1 said:
What's he done outside of f1? (genuine question).
He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
I think you will find he has been very active on environmental and equality issues. Have you not noticed ?He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
He’s been the driving force in F1’s we race as one initiative.
Blue62 said:
Never mind a knighthood, the poor bloke can’t even win SPOTY.
Didn’t he win it in 2014?On the point of tax status, doesn’t Farah live in Monaco or somewhere? There are plenty of honours recipients with opaque tax affairs, so it would be interesting if HMRC could make their criteria available. In terms of sporting achievement he deserves a knighthood, irrespective of whether he’s retired or not.
Andeh1 said:
What's he done outside of f1? (genuine question).
He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
Why does that matter? He should be knighted for what he’s achieved. He’s probably the only driver to transcend F1 and an inspiration for many people. He is good at his job, so are so many other people without the massive Bank account & fame. Has he done anything selfless? Supported more then the bare minimum of the sponsorship required feel good events? Anything more worthy?
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