Crossrail has hit the buffers
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Spending Review: London's Crossrail 2 funding stopped
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
Edited by robinessex on Thursday 26th November 13:48
robinessex said:
Spending Review: London's Crossrail 2 funding stopped
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
I think you have confused Crossrail with Crossrail 2.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
Edited by robinessex on Thursday 26th November 13:48
They are very different things
JD said:
robinessex said:
Spending Review: London's Crossrail 2 funding stopped
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
I think you have confused Crossrail with Crossrail 2.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55076...
The government has announced it has stopped developing Crossrail 2.
The £41bn rail line was scheduled to open in the 2030s and run under London from the north-east to the south-west.
On Thursday the Treasury confirmed as part of its Spending Review it had agreed with Transport for London (TfL) not to fund the project....continues
Crossrail has hit the buffers. Well, it hasn't actually, as it's still being commissioned. Well, it was yesterday, it looks as if the government has pulled the fuses out. I live in Brentwood, seen the house prices walking distance away from Shenfield station rocket in anticipation. Ooops! So, what next. I'd love to know why, when it's so nearly completed, so much more needs to be spent, just what did go wrong at the end? All the basic engineering seems ok, it looks as if it's system problems from what little I've heard.
Edited by robinessex on Thursday 26th November 13:48
They are very different things
Crossrail (Elizabeth Line) has nothing to do with Crossrail 2 with the exception of the proposed sharing of one station (Tott Court rd).
It was only in its feasibility stage anyway and was years away from shovels in the ground and what with COVID, an already shaky project has been canned and shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.
The Elizabeth Line is continuing as normal (by normal meaning mega late and over budget
) but it will open at some point.
It was only in its feasibility stage anyway and was years away from shovels in the ground and what with COVID, an already shaky project has been canned and shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.
The Elizabeth Line is continuing as normal (by normal meaning mega late and over budget
) but it will open at some point.JD said:
I think you have confused Crossrail with Crossrail 2.
They are very different things
They are, but I suspect Crossrail 2 has been canned with the combination of possible perceived lack of need in a post-Covid WFH encouraged future, plus the utter clusterfThey are very different things
k that Crossrail 1 has become, with the Dec 2018 having long passed into history. With recent news that they are now looking at mid 2022 at the earliest, plus saying they need yet another £1.1bn to complete it, meaning that if they manage it with that it will end up be over £4bn over budget......I can understand time and cost delays as a result of Covid, with social distance measures on site since April having a massive delay effect on keeping to programme......along with a likely culling of many contract staff at the same time.
But this project has been a disaster long before Covid stuck its oar into procedings.
aeropilot said:
They are, but I suspect Crossrail 2 has been canned with the combination of possible perceived lack of need in a post-Covid WFH encouraged future, plus the utter clusterfk that Crossrail 1 has become, with the Dec 2018 having long passed into history. With recent news that they are now looking at mid 2022 at the earliest, plus saying they need yet another £1.1bn to complete it, meaning that if they manage it with that it will end up be over £4bn over budget......
I can understand time and cost delays as a result of Covid, with social distance measures on site since April having a massive delay effect on keeping to programme......along with a likely culling of many contract staff at the same time.
But this project has been a disaster long before Covid stuck its oar into procedings.
I suppose BBC2 will have to retitle that occasional series they do on it. The eleventy billion pound railway?k that Crossrail 1 has become, with the Dec 2018 having long passed into history. With recent news that they are now looking at mid 2022 at the earliest, plus saying they need yet another £1.1bn to complete it, meaning that if they manage it with that it will end up be over £4bn over budget......I can understand time and cost delays as a result of Covid, with social distance measures on site since April having a massive delay effect on keeping to programme......along with a likely culling of many contract staff at the same time.
But this project has been a disaster long before Covid stuck its oar into procedings.
Someone at Edinburgh City Council will be rejoicing that they're finally going to lose the title of most ineptly handled rail based urban transport project in the UK at long last.
robinessex said:
I wasn't thinking of a physical connection, but a better route around/across London for commuters.
I imagine it was to relieve congestion rather than being vital in its own right. Given WFH I doubt footfall on London public transport is going to return to 2019 levels for years, if ever. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff