Donate £10k to charity when you buy a house?
Donate £10k to charity when you buy a house?
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

202 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Builder comes up with idea to pass £10k of purchasers money onto charity
https://www.hertsad.co.uk/property/why-should-i-bu...

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Call me cynical, but I imagine this is simply a ploy by the housebuilder to get some good press and free advertising, to help them flog their new properties.

£10k won't really make much of a dent when you are charging "£800k for a 2 bed apartment".

princeperch

8,218 posts

271 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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I suspect it won't make any material difference to the builders bottom line. There is probably a tax dodge here so they are simply agreeing to donate money they would otherwise be paying in corporation tax.

The Road Crew

4,272 posts

184 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Marketing. Its working as well, as we're talking about it and it's in the paper etc.

Mind you, 10k from an 800k flat isn't really going to make much a dent in the (almost certainly) huge profit margin!

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

67 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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£700-£900k houses
I expect profit on each house would be £200k - How generous of him! laugh

I'm being a cynical arse today.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

202 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?

mcdjl

5,699 posts

219 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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saaby93 said:
Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?
i would like the donation to be made to the mcdjl transport foundation which has the aim of improving access to cars for all.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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saaby93 said:
Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?
I would have thought so, but at £950k, the £10k represents a discount of 1.05%.

Still, £10k is £10k, and I would rather have it knocked off the price rather than given to a charity of the developers choice. I appreciate this may mark me out as selfish.

BatForcePC

463 posts

230 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Pretty sure any company "giving" to charity is able to claim corporation tax relief on the amount....

thebraketester

15,560 posts

162 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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I fail to view that as an incentive.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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I’m starting a charity before people realise what a scam they are hehe

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
I’m starting a charity before people realise what a scam they are hehe
I'm fairly sure they have been regarded as a scam for years, yet they still seem to continue.

The figures are easy to find, and it may not shock people to discover that many of the big name charities spend as much as 74% of their income on their own salaries, offices, expenses, and advertising etc.

Figures published by the charity commission also show that smaller charities and local charities spend almost all their income on the things they intended to support or fund, but, the 'big' charities with income over £100m are massively inefficient, and often spend more on themselves than they give to the causes they support.

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

67 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
saaby93 said:
Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?
I would have thought so, but at £950k, the £10k represents a discount of 1.05%.

Still, £10k is £10k, and I would rather have it knocked off the price rather than given to a charity of the developers choice. I appreciate this may mark me out as selfish.
I feel the same.

Rivenink

4,292 posts

130 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Sophisticated Sarah said:
I’m starting a charity before people realise what a scam they are hehe
I'm fairly sure they have been regarded as a scam for years, yet they still seem to continue.

The figures are easy to find, and it may not shock people to discover that many of the big name charities spend as much as 74% of their income on their own salaries, offices, expenses, and advertising etc.

Figures published by the charity commission also show that smaller charities and local charities spend almost all their income on the things they intended to support or fund, but, the 'big' charities with income over £100m are massively inefficient, and often spend more on themselves than they give to the causes they support.
Some charities are a scam because they're nothing more than vehicles for tax avoidance. Some charities are a scam because they provide services that Government should, but doesn't. Help for Heroes comes to mind here.

When comparing the percentages of how much of funds raised goes to the cause, its important to consider the scale: both in the cost of organisation, the total funds raised and used for the cause. 25% of £100m is a whole lot more than 95% of 100k, and provides a whole lot more benefit.




pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Rivenink said:
25% of £100m is a whole lot more than 95% of 100k, and provides a whole lot more benefit.
Though not quite as much benefit as the people getting the 75% see.

98elise

31,527 posts

185 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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BatForcePC said:
Pretty sure any company "giving" to charity is able to claim corporation tax relief on the amount....
If you give 10k to a charity then you are out of pocket 10k. Not getting taxed on that 10k isn't a benefit to you.



Electro1980

8,934 posts

163 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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saaby93 said:
Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?
It wouldn’t make any difference to the house price. Houses being houses, new or old, will sell for what they are worth to the buyer.

Electro1980

8,934 posts

163 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Sophisticated Sarah said:
I’m starting a charity before people realise what a scam they are hehe
I'm fairly sure they have been regarded as a scam for years, yet they still seem to continue.

The figures are easy to find, and it may not shock people to discover that many of the big name charities spend as much as 74% of their income on their own salaries, offices, expenses, and advertising etc.

Figures published by the charity commission also show that smaller charities and local charities spend almost all their income on the things they intended to support or fund, but, the 'big' charities with income over £100m are massively inefficient, and often spend more on themselves than they give to the causes they support.
Firstly, they don’t. The 74% figure seems to come from reports on BHF funding, which is actually not true and to do with journalists no understanding accounting.

Secondly, yes, small local charities are more “efficient”, but that does not make them better. Small local charities are run completely by volunteers in their spare time. Mrs Smith and the local Vicar might be able to find raise to fix the church roof, but they won’t be able to manage much research in to cancer therapies.

Hoofy

79,474 posts

306 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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320d is all you need said:
Lord Marylebone said:
saaby93 said:
Wouldnt most buyers prefer the £10k discount?
I would have thought so, but at £950k, the £10k represents a discount of 1.05%.

Still, £10k is £10k, and I would rather have it knocked off the price rather than given to a charity of the developers choice. I appreciate this may mark me out as selfish.
I feel the same.
It's the charity of the buyer's choice.

Still, I'd take a £10k discount even if it is £800k.

For the builder, assuming £200k profit, that's 5%. I'd happily donate 5% of my profits to a charity if it got me free advertising (well, it's not free but imagine only having to pay for advertising if the advert sold!) and improved sales.

Rivenink

4,292 posts

130 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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pquinn said:
Rivenink said:
25% of £100m is a whole lot more than 95% of 100k, and provides a whole lot more benefit.
Though not quite as much benefit as the people getting the 75% see.
Who exactly do you think is getting the 75%?