RIP Chuck Yeager
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ChemicalChaos

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10,707 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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97, quite an amazing age given the career scrapes he got into!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Yeager

Whilst he's known for the WW2 and sound barrier stuff, I didn't realise he was also active in Korea and Vietnam, and still occasionally flying hot combat jets well into his old age!

Truly, the right stuff

Gameface

16,565 posts

101 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Proper baller.

To make it to 97 with the risks he took throughout his life, is bloody good going.

Biker 1

8,422 posts

143 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Not many people as tough & cool as him!!
The right stuff indeed - a different era, which I am very nostalgic about.....

Esceptico

8,897 posts

133 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Falls into the category of didn’t know he was still alive.

When you have to listen to news about s like Trump and all his enablers it is really good to be reminded that the US does produce some proper heroes too.

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Something I've been expecting for a while - sad to see it eventually happen.

As well as his test flying exploits and combat record - he also headed up the first USAF school for training military astronauts, although he himself was ineligible to apply to be a NASA astronaut.

Blue62

10,311 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Something I've been expecting for a while - sad to see it eventually happen.

As well as his test flying exploits and combat record - he also headed up the first USAF school for training military astronauts, although he himself was ineligible to apply to be a NASA astronaut.
Why was he ineligible Eric?

marksx

5,171 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Esceptico said:
Falls into the category of didn’t know he was still alive.

When you have to listen to news about s like Trump and all his enablers it is really good to be reminded that the US does produce some proper heroes too.
Likewise. I didn't realise he was still alive. frown

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Blue62 said:
Eric Mc said:
Something I've been expecting for a while - sad to see it eventually happen.

As well as his test flying exploits and combat record - he also headed up the first USAF school for training military astronauts, although he himself was ineligible to apply to be a NASA astronaut.
Why was he ineligible Eric?
When NASA announced in 1959, its plans to put men into space, it stated that they had to have test flight experience, so many thousand hours of fast jet experience and hold a degree or degree equivalent in aeronautics or engineering.

Yeager didn't have any education beyond high school graduation so he failed the "degree" test.

Steve vRS

5,324 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Blue62 said:
Eric Mc said:
Something I've been expecting for a while - sad to see it eventually happen.

As well as his test flying exploits and combat record - he also headed up the first USAF school for training military astronauts, although he himself was ineligible to apply to be a NASA astronaut.
Why was he ineligible Eric?
When NASA announced in 1959, its plans to put men into space, it stated that they had to have test flight experience, so many thousand hours of fast jet experience and hold a degree or degree equivalent in aeronautics or engineering.

Yeager didn't have any education beyond high school graduation so he failed the "degree" test.
What a great life he had!

This is an interesting snippet from the Telegraph obituary that relates to the above conversation :-

Daily Telegraph said:
Yeager was passed over for the burgeoning US space programme because he never went to college but he was hardly heartbroken not to become an astronaut. He considered them mere passengers "throwing the right switches on instructions from the ground."

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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As ever, the press puts a very simplistic view on the story. Yeager sometimes disparaged the NASA astronauts but if he had been eligible, he would have applied in a flash.

As it was, the USAF hoped to establish its own corps of astronauts and set up an astronaut school at Edwards Air Force Base, putting Yeager in charge. In the end, none of the Air Force manned space programmes came to pass (enhanced X-15, Boeing X-210 Dyna-Soar, Manned Orbiting Laboratory - MOL).

Those military astronauts who were left stranded by the cancellation of these programmes either went back to more normal Air Force (or Navy) duties or hung on and eventually got assigned to the upcoming Space Shuttle programme (Bob Crippen being one of them). By then Yeager was no longer on active duty - although he continued to fly as part of the USAF Reserve into the 1980s.

dukeboy749r

3,224 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Esceptico said:
Falls into the category of didn’t know he was still alive.

When you have to listen to news about s like Trump and all his enablers it is really good to be reminded that the US does produce some proper heroes too.
Well said. Exactly my thoughts upon hearing this, this morning.

I thought he had died decades ago - amazing man.

Steve vRS

5,324 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Lots of good stuff.
I should have remembered that from reading the Rowland White book, 'Into the Black'.

Iamnotkloot

1,862 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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It was Chuck Yeager who said ‘the first time I saw a jet, I shot it down’’

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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He features in a number of good books, most famously, "The Right Stuff" by Tom Wolfe. However, I would issue a warning about that book. It is a great read - I've read it many times. But it is not a "history" book in the true sense so to get a fuller picture of what was going on in test flying in the late 1940s and 1950s, I'd recommend reading other books on the topic. Yeager's own biography is one and "Into the Black" (as mentioned) is pretty good too.

poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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I met him in California in 2007 by chance. Had a crowd around him, remarkable guy, unassuming, proud, and still very active in his well into his 80s, still flying some stuff, he told me!

Guys like him are from a generation that gave so much, with such honour and bravery. They are the the like of which we will never see again.

RIP

TCEvo

15,108 posts

226 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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RIP - hell of a bloke.

Enjoyed reading his Bio a couple of years ago.

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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This is a very good documentary, dating from 1980.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pY_uJGS59g

Magnum 475

4,024 posts

156 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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I knew he was still flying supersonic at 84. . . then read today that he made his last supersonic flight at the age of 89. I think he was truly unique in aviation. Handling fast jets at any age is special (my fastest ever was a BAC Strikemaster that doesn't even get close to supersonic), but to be doing this at almost 90 years old is amazing.


essayer

10,363 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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marksx said:
Likewise. I didn't realise he was still alive. frown
I followed him on Twitter and he was still replying to people's questions and everything was all very respectful (unusually for that platform)

A true legend

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

285 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Some bizarre comments from Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic on radio this morning. He reckoned Chuck Yeager discovered that you had the 'reverse the controls' at supersonic speed (no, that was the trick used by the fictional test pilot in the film Test pilot). Also that a British pilot had exceeded Mach 1 in a dive before Yeager's supersonic flight. Someone did, in an F86, but he wasn't British.