What a Christmas
Discussion
hutchst said:
2020 goes out with a bang.
A Brexit trade deal and two Covid vaccines in the space of a month.
All we need is for the Murrells to win this weekend's lottery and retire to the Cayman Islands.
Doesn’t feel like there’s light at the end of the Covid tunnel even with vaccines.A Brexit trade deal and two Covid vaccines in the space of a month.
All we need is for the Murrells to win this weekend's lottery and retire to the Cayman Islands.
Not to be grumpy but I’m not exactly in a celebratory mood. All feels a bit flat after a miserable year.
KrissKross said:
I am currently having a Christmas family dispute.
Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one
I’ll answer your question with 2 further questions, on the presumption that you are talking about a new car purchase :Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one

1. Will you be able to buy an AMG V8 in 10 years time
2. Will you be able to buy an electric car in 10 years time
I keep thinking about buying/leasing an electric car for local trips, then I see that I could buy something less suitable/economical but quirky for the same money ...
KrissKross said:
I am currently having a Christmas family dispute.
Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one
I could never recommend a Tesla, but I’d be happy to let you have my immaculate 2,000 mile fully-loaded P100D for a reasonable price which would then let me drop my legal case and move on.Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one

But seriously. AMG V8.
On which subject if you’re willing to travel to Amsterdam you can have my 800 mile SL63 for a very reasonable price...
KrissKross said:
I am currently having a Christmas family dispute.
Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one
What a fantastic argument to have. I would say both V8 now and tesla in a few years time. Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one

Get both.
We got a Hybrid in Sept. It is great fun to hoon around in, full electric torque from start, leaves V8s standing that didn't expect it (0-60 ~8.5s). Best liberation of dino juice I have got from it is 4.9 mpg on a two mile run. I have had 119 mpg on a downhill three mile journey in electric mode rheostatic braking all the way, but these hybrids aren't saving the planet the way I drive!
My petrol V6 German Motorway cruiser did 7,00 business miles this year, which I would have been around 70 mph most of the time and delivered 66 mpg though I do tend to hypermile on company time.
So buy a hybrid, drive like a gran, save the planet.
Perhaps.
Buy a hybrid, drive like a 50 year old with something to prove over petrol engines at traffic light gran prix.
No benefit.
Might as well get the car you want. It'll be being made anyway for someone to buy, so all that carbon offset in manufacturing / release happened whether you were going to buy the car or not.
Also, think about it, the quicker we use up the viable economically recoverable oil reserves, the quicker we get on a path to a carbon neutral economy. So it is your fundamental civic duty on the UK path to Carbon Neutral 2050 to get rid of carbon based fuels as fast as possible. That rationale got me a V6 in 1996 vs a diesel so should still work now.
We got a Hybrid in Sept. It is great fun to hoon around in, full electric torque from start, leaves V8s standing that didn't expect it (0-60 ~8.5s). Best liberation of dino juice I have got from it is 4.9 mpg on a two mile run. I have had 119 mpg on a downhill three mile journey in electric mode rheostatic braking all the way, but these hybrids aren't saving the planet the way I drive!
My petrol V6 German Motorway cruiser did 7,00 business miles this year, which I would have been around 70 mph most of the time and delivered 66 mpg though I do tend to hypermile on company time.
So buy a hybrid, drive like a gran, save the planet.
Perhaps.
Buy a hybrid, drive like a 50 year old with something to prove over petrol engines at traffic light gran prix.
No benefit.
Might as well get the car you want. It'll be being made anyway for someone to buy, so all that carbon offset in manufacturing / release happened whether you were going to buy the car or not.
Also, think about it, the quicker we use up the viable economically recoverable oil reserves, the quicker we get on a path to a carbon neutral economy. So it is your fundamental civic duty on the UK path to Carbon Neutral 2050 to get rid of carbon based fuels as fast as possible. That rationale got me a V6 in 1996 vs a diesel so should still work now.
Kent Border Kenny said:
KrissKross said:
I am currently having a Christmas family dispute.
Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one
I could never recommend a Tesla, but I’d be happy to let you have my immaculate 2,000 mile fully-loaded P100D for a reasonable price which would then let me drop my legal case and move on.Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one

But seriously. AMG V8.
On which subject if you’re willing to travel to Amsterdam you can have my 800 mile SL63 for a very reasonable price...
Ive also been fortunate enough to own an AMG V8 - if you haven’t yet, you should! Merry Xmas!
B'stard Child said:
survivalist said:
I’ll answer your question with 2 further questions, on the presumption that you are talking about a new car purchase :
1. Will you be able to buy an AMG V8 in 10 years time
2. Will you be able to buy an electric car in 10 years time
Surely is the right answer 1. Will you be able to buy an AMG V8 in 10 years time
2. Will you be able to buy an electric car in 10 years time

andy43 said:
As a recent purchaser of an immaculate 22,000 mile fully-loaded P100D I’m intrigued.
Ive also been fortunate enough to own an AMG V8 - if you haven’t yet, you should! Merry Xmas!
A great many very serious issues from new, and Tesla flat refusing to accept a return.Ive also been fortunate enough to own an AMG V8 - if you haven’t yet, you should! Merry Xmas!
Highlights included GPS claiming I was in Dover for my week in Champagne and the car emergency braking whenever I overtook an HGV on the continent.
KrissKross said:
I am currently having a Christmas family dispute.
Should I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one
I'm just glad I live in a world where such choices exist and can be made. I'm thinking of swapping my 70mpg diesel mini for a 17mpg l322 supercharged Range Rover next year, first world problems, ain't they a bShould I buy an AMG V8 or a Tesla, the Devil or Greta...
It's now become a male v female argument because women don't understand V8 noises.
Have a good one

h?Kent Border Kenny said:
andy43 said:
As a recent purchaser of an immaculate 22,000 mile fully-loaded P100D I’m intrigued.
Ive also been fortunate enough to own an AMG V8 - if you haven’t yet, you should! Merry Xmas!
A great many very serious issues from new, and Tesla flat refusing to accept a return.Ive also been fortunate enough to own an AMG V8 - if you haven’t yet, you should! Merry Xmas!
Highlights included GPS claiming I was in Dover for my week in Champagne and the car emergency braking whenever I overtook an HGV on the continent.
They all do that sir. Chances of using one as an unmanned taxi, ever = less than zero.
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