Indonesian Boeing 737 missing

[TTmonkey]

News just being reported.


Not a 737 Max apparently.

[Puggit]

The flight data looks like an extremely steep fall at the end.

[eharding]

TTmonkey said:

News just being reported.


Not a 737 Max apparently.

Pprune thread with apparent flight details. Looks grim.

[Brother D]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/world/asia/indo...

[TTmonkey]

Reports of it falling from 11000ft in less than 30 seconds?

Sounds like a bomb to me.

[TellYaWhatItIs]

TTmonkey said:

Reports of it falling from 11000ft in less than 30 seconds?

Sounds like a bomb to me.

Small debris field scatter would suggest it hit the water intact.

[Hub]

Deliberate act? Planes rarely just suddenly fall out of the sky.

(Well or some sort of specific structural failure perhaps)

Edited by Hub on Saturday 9th January 15:51

[pquinn]

Could be almost anything but it was an old airframe being maintained and operated under less than world class conditions.

Some suggestion it could be the old classic 737 rudder failure. Everyone's forgotten that one but it happened a *lot*.

[Narcisus]

TTmonkey said:

Reports of it falling from 11000ft in less than 30 seconds?

Sounds like a bomb to me.

Daft to say that really loads of things could have happened with the same result.

[Oilchange]

Could be lots of things, first thought for me was the pilot rolled inverted and pulled into a dive at full throttle.

[Mabbs9]

pquinn said:

Could be almost anything but it was an old airframe being maintained and operated under less than world class conditions.

Some suggestion it could be the old classic 737 rudder failure. Everyone's forgotten that one but it happened a *lot*.

I believe it was a -500 so not a classic. It does sound awful, apparently impact with the water witnessed by a fishing vessel.

[pquinn]

Oilchange said:

Could be lots of things, first thought for me was the pilot rolled inverted and pulled into a dive at full throttle.

If I remember the rudder failure correctly the 737 was quite capable of doing that all on its own with the pilot just along for the ride.

Investigation should point one way or another reasonably soon.

[TellYaWhatItIs]

Was the rudder thing traced back to contaminated hydraulic fluid or have I simply watched too much air crash investigation and I'm conflating.

[Oilchange]

pquinn said:

Oilchange said:

Could be lots of things, first thought for me was the pilot rolled inverted and pulled into a dive at full throttle.

If I remember the rudder failure correctly the 737 was quite capable of doing that all on its own with the pilot just along for the ride.

Investigation should point one way or another reasonably soon.

I was just thinking out loud but if that's the case sounds like a dreadful way to go. You'd think they'd make the bloody airframes stronger...