Publicly shamed for not clapping
Publicly shamed for not clapping
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LeftmostAardvark

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1,744 posts

188 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonab...

Seems like the parish councils are cracking completely, what with this and Handford.

Anyone else think that Hot Fuzz wasn’t comedy, but a documentary that was ahead of its time?

Electro1980

8,933 posts

163 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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I’d be passing that to the police as harassment if that were me. Petty, yes, but someone in authority (however minor) needs a reality check.

Jamescrs

5,938 posts

89 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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LeftmostAardvark said:
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonab...

Seems like the parish councils are cracking completely, what with this and Handford.

Anyone else think that Hot Fuzz wasn’t comedy, but a documentary that was ahead of its time?
The original thread has been deleted unfortunately

LeftmostAardvark

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1,744 posts

188 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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That’s a shame. It was broadly a couple had been outed for not clapping, including having their name and address listed , on a Facebook post from the local parish council.

J4CKO

45,982 posts

224 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.

Jamescrs

5,938 posts

89 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
There wasn't a single person on my street (Me included) who went out to clap this time and I didn't hear anyone on neighbouring streets either.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

110 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
Good Post. Some nice thoughts in there.

monkeychild

577 posts

94 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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"You have no authority here Jackie Weaver!!!"

Tom Logan

3,872 posts

149 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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mickyh7 said:
J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
Good Post. Some nice thoughts in there.
Agreed, well said.

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
I didn't partake, nor did I for the regular ones during the summer (or whenever the hell it was). That in no way means that I don't agree with the sentiment. I really don't like overtly public displays like this - I think they are largely self-centred and virtue signalling or, at best, some strange need to fit in. I don't have a "look at me" type personality and I'd much rather go pretty much unnoticed, to be honest. I certainly object the any suggestion, tacit or otherwise, that you need to do it because it's "the right thing".

I have great respect for the old boy, I really do. However there are limits; I saw something yesterday that there was a petition to give him a state funeral. That is something I do not agree with. Yes, he did a great thing in raising all that money but lots of people do and don't get state funerals. The last non-monarch to receive one was Winston Churchill and that was due to the very exceptional circumstances of his career.

stitched

3,813 posts

197 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
I'll ask your opinion on that next year, If you had told me in 2019 that plod would stop me on the way to work to check what are basically travel papers I'd have called you a tin foil hat nutter.
Only reason I got off without a FPN was I had my work ID with me so they 'let me off' as it's a large factory in my direction of travel.
I've never even thought of smacking one of our BiB but this sanctimonious cock came as close as any have.
Disrespectful, rude, physically intrusive and an all round bellend. Employed and supported by the government of the U.K.


Kawasicki

14,166 posts

259 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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siolence

Indoraptor

205 posts

63 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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stitched said:
I'll ask your opinion on that next year, If you had told me in 2019 that plod would stop me on the way to work to check what are basically travel papers I'd have called you a tin foil hat nutter.
Only reason I got off without a FPN was I had my work ID with me so they 'let me off' as it's a large factory in my direction of travel.
I've never even thought of smacking one of our BiB but this sanctimonious cock came as close as any have.
Disrespectful, rude, physically intrusive and an all round bellend. Employed and supported by the government of the U.K.
It’s good that plod are starting to check what people are doing out, but I agree there are ways of doing it without being a dick.

thebraketester

15,558 posts

162 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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monkeychild said:
"You have no authority here Jackie Weaver!!!"
READ THE STANDING ORDERS........

Smollet

15,466 posts

214 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Jamescrs said:
There wasn't a single person on my street (Me included) who went out to clap this time and I didn't hear anyone on neighbouring streets either.
Likewise.

colin_p

4,503 posts

236 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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thebraketester said:
monkeychild said:
"You have no authority here Jackie Weaver!!!"
READ THE STANDING ORDERS........
AND LEARN THEM !

Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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stitched said:
I'll ask your opinion on that next year, If you had told me in 2019 that plod would stop me on the way to work to check what are basically travel papers I'd have called you a tin foil hat nutter.
Only reason I got off without a FPN was I had my work ID with me so they 'let me off' as it's a large factory in my direction of travel.
I've never even thought of smacking one of our BiB but this sanctimonious cock came as close as any have.
Disrespectful, rude, physically intrusive and an all round bellend. Employed and supported by the government of the U.K.
Where you respectful and polite?

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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J4CKO said:
For Captain Tom or previously ?

I didn't clap for Captain Tom, but I did sit and watch the news, it reminded me of my own grandad, born the same week in 1920 who died in 1989, it reminded me of the sacrifices and the fact those folk are all but gone now and what a lovely chap Captain Tom was, it was a little dusty in there for a minute.

Not everyone does slightly mawkish shows of support on the doorstep in winter, some really don't give a st, some prefer personal reflection, and some want to make it non optional for everyone else.

Same as wearing poppies and stuff like that, we don't live in North Korea.
Great post and very similar to my thoughts. My Grandad was also born in 1920 (20/02/20, nice easy one to remember), he left us shortly before his 91st birthday almost exactly ten years ago. Sir Tom brought it all back to me, the stories he told, the type of man he was - quite simply my hero.

We're coming right to the end of having that generation around to look up to and hear first hand what really happened during those days.

I wasn't in the slightest bit interested in a public display of clapping, but it certainly didn't mean I wasn't extremely moved by his passing or appreciate everything he did.


Boringvolvodriver

11,351 posts

67 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Indoraptor said:
stitched said:
I'll ask your opinion on that next year, If you had told me in 2019 that plod would stop me on the way to work to check what are basically travel papers I'd have called you a tin foil hat nutter.
Only reason I got off without a FPN was I had my work ID with me so they 'let me off' as it's a large factory in my direction of travel.
I've never even thought of smacking one of our BiB but this sanctimonious cock came as close as any have.
Disrespectful, rude, physically intrusive and an all round bellend. Employed and supported by the government of the U.K.
It’s good that plod are starting to check what people are doing out, but I agree there are ways of doing it without being a dick.
Really? Given how stretched the resources are Haven't they got other things they could be doing? I am sure you would be happy that they failed to turn up to a burglary as they were dealing with a situation as above?

The other thing is how do they prove that you are out for reasonable excuse - if I am on my way to the supermarket, how do I prove it - have a shopping list with me or are they going to follow me there?

Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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Boringvolvodriver said:
Really? Given how stretched the resources are Haven't they got other things they could be doing? I am sure you would be happy that they failed to turn up to a burglary as they were dealing with a situation as above?

The other thing is how do they prove that you are out for reasonable excuse - if I am on my way to the supermarket, how do I prove it - have a shopping list with me or are they going to follow me there?
Yes. really. The sensationalist scenario you describe is comic book stuff (meanwhile, on the other side of town...).

Presumably you take a reasonably direct route to and from the supermarket, don't you? It should then be evident that you're on your way there, or back. Perhaps your list and the pile of bags for life in the boot would add some colour to your account.

We only have one side of the OP's story. It sounds pretty much like he showed his work ID and continued on to work. His melodramatic whatiffery is irrelevant to his main gripe which was about attitude. However, with only the one account and no knowledge of how many utter cocks the officer in question had dealt with prior to their particular interaction it would b harsh to write off "the police" for doing what their bosses, government and a large swathe of the electorate (if social media squawking is to be believed) wish them to be doing. Wouldn't you say?

I know from experience that consummate professionalism when dealing with the majority of the UK adult population is a difficult thing to sustain for a whole shift. I'd wager a month's wages that you'd be unsuccessful were you to spend a week or so on a similar detail.