British gas strike
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MG CHRIS

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9,322 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Is anyone else aware of this not seen a single mention on any news site but the fitters/techs for British gas have now been on strike for a few weeks now. My mate is one of the few still working his area is usually 20 miles or so its now over 150 miles for emergency call outs.
Anyone else effected by this or even know about it considering the size of the company and the union behind it the silence of reporting on it is odd. Thought it would at least be some reporting on it.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

147 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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If these workers think they are worth better contracts then why not find a job elsewhere which will offer them that? Economic conditions are tough and Centrica are losing billions of pounds - can we really blame them for looking to save a bit of money here and there?


“ The GMB called a 12-day day strike last month after balloting its 9,200 British Gas members. Around 59% took part in the vote, of whom 89% – or 4,830 workers – voted in favour of industrial action. About 80% of Centrica’s 20,000 staff have agreed to sign up to the new employment contracts.

GMB’s call to down tools followed months of tense negotiations between its representatives and Centrica over its plans to reduce its workforce and shift employees on to new contracts.

The union has accused Centrica of “bullying” its 20,000 employees into accepting worse employment contracts or losing their jobs as part of a “fire and rehire” plan.

The embattled FTSE company, which has lost more than three-quarters of its market value in the last five years, said the decision to ask all employees to sign up to new employment contracts was always a “final resort option”.

“Our business needs to change to survive and protect 20,000 jobs,” a spokesperson said. “We know change is difficult but we have offered a fair deal that has been negotiated over 300 hours with unions where base pay and pensions are protected.””

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/01/g...

MG CHRIS

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9,322 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Agreed my mate said as much himself they wont have a better contract elsewhere not by a long shot, There is also huge perks in the job as well, he has continued working but his father in law full on militant ex minor type is full of this atm 60 year old age group (south wales valley area)and is causing a lot of friction between the both of them. My mate just wants to work and pay his bills only just moved into his dream house.

What is more funny his father in law takes full advantage of the generous perks including sick pay specially in 2020.


Rob_125

1,861 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Given the fact many are getting made redundant in other industries I doubt public support for the employees cause will not be great. Gas and boiler fitters are trades in demand, things will only change for the better if people talk with their feet.

carl_w

10,481 posts

282 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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MG CHRIS said:
Is anyone else aware of this not seen a single mention on any news site but the fitters/techs for British gas have now been on strike for a few weeks now. My mate is one of the few still working his area is usually 20 miles or so its now over 150 miles for emergency call outs.
This explains why when I try to book an appointment I'm offered something in 6 weeks time. Assuming you mean British Gase HomeCare/Dyno Rod

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

252 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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I'm surprised that people are still using British gas. They have always been the most expensive supplier by far in my area.

Chimune

4,056 posts

247 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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While I'm sure the unions do their best for those who pay their wages, as usual they seem to be remarkably out of touch with the rest of the country.

MG CHRIS

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9,322 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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carl_w said:
MG CHRIS said:
Is anyone else aware of this not seen a single mention on any news site but the fitters/techs for British gas have now been on strike for a few weeks now. My mate is one of the few still working his area is usually 20 miles or so its now over 150 miles for emergency call outs.
This explains why when I try to book an appointment I'm offered something in 6 weeks time. Assuming you mean British Gase HomeCare/Dyno Rod
Yep that be why.

Sheepshanks

39,399 posts

143 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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MG CHRIS said:
Is anyone else aware of this not seen a single mention on any news site but the fitters/techs for British gas have now been on strike for a few weeks now. My mate is one of the few still working his area is usually 20 miles or so its now over 150 miles for emergency call outs.
Anyone else effected by this or even know about it considering the size of the company and the union behind it the silence of reporting on it is odd. Thought it would at least be some reporting on it.
Couple of us mentioned it in this thread: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by Sheepshanks on Sunday 7th February 18:45

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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In all of my dealings with BG they've shown themselves to be incompetent numpties who for example can't cannect the wires onto a boiler in the correct places.

MG CHRIS

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9,322 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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Rob_125 said:
Given the fact many are getting made redundant in other industries I doubt public support for the employees cause will not be great. Gas and boiler fitters are trades in demand, things will only change for the better if people talk with their feet.
Yep agreed on that they have far in the way the best contract in the industry with some very nice condition good sick pay well over 30 days of a year great bonus schemes and in the summer a pretty short working day too. Even with the changes it still be the best contract in the game. Im surprised the gmb haven't made more of a fuss about it but I suspect they know deep down not many in the public would support them.

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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I doubt many will have much sympathy for them at the moment, although I don’t agree with the race to the bottom where we pay pennies to those doing the actual work so that those in head office can be paid a fortune.

MG CHRIS

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Sunday 7th February 2021
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Sophisticated Sarah said:
I doubt many will have much sympathy for them at the moment, although I don’t agree with the race to the bottom where we pay pennies to those doing the actual work so that those in head office can be paid a fortune.
The changes are on holidays, sick pay and bonuses main pay is staying the same, That's the problem far too many in the trades rely on bonuses too live when its taken away or reduced it causes huge issues. I see it in the motor trade as a tech none of the various schemes work well some will make a killing other wont all depends on the jobs you get.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

248 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
In all of my dealings with BG they've shown themselves to be incompetent numpties who for example can't cannect the wires onto a boiler in the correct places.
Aren’t most of them not good enough to go it alone? Family member had them out 6 times in a week to fit then fix a new combi h/exchanger, on a newish boiler. Should be straight forward really.

sbarclay62

899 posts

81 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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MG CHRIS said:
Agreed my mate said as much himself they wont have a better contract elsewhere not by a long shot, There is also huge perks in the job as well, he has continued working but his father in law full on militant ex minor type is full of this atm 60 year old age group (south wales valley area)and is causing a lot of friction between the both of them. My mate just wants to work and pay his bills only just moved into his dream house.

What is more funny his father in law takes full advantage of the generous perks including sick pay specially in 2020.
Shortsighted-ness.

It's not just about currently its about protecting their future aswell. You accept the conditions this time whats to stop management coming back back in 5 years doing the same, if the workforce just accept it then they do it again and again?

Leicester Loyal

4,961 posts

146 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Haven't they been told this is your new contract with worse terms and conditions, if you don't sign it you get no redundancy payment?

No wonder they're up in arms if true.

st if you're a BG customer though, waiting weeks to get stuff fixed isn't on.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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sbarclay62 said:
Shortsighted-ness.

It's not just about currently its about protecting their future aswell. You accept the conditions this time whats to stop management coming back back in 5 years doing the same, if the workforce just accept it then they do it again and again?
If they can get better elsewhere then they should go. If it's the best game in town they should accept it & get on with life.

valiant

13,424 posts

184 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
sbarclay62 said:
Shortsighted-ness.

It's not just about currently its about protecting their future aswell. You accept the conditions this time whats to stop management coming back back in 5 years doing the same, if the workforce just accept it then they do it again and again?
If they can get better elsewhere then they should go. If it's the best game in town they should accept it & get on with life.
They have accepted it and want to get on with life as they have a contract. The trouble is is that BG want to offer them a worse contract. It’s BG management who are moving the goalposts and it’s they who are shortsighted as the better engineers will leave and only the crappy or new ones will be left deteriorating standards which in turn will cause customers to leave.

There’s nothing wrong with being a good, well paying employer and this race to the bottom helps no one.

It seems that BG are using COVID as a cover to reduce their terms and conditions and the ‘lucky you have a job’ brigade are busy defending them rather than asking if this is correct course of action. After all, is your boiler cover price going to reduce as a consequence or, as mine did before I cancelled, go up despite no call outs the previous years?

Ilovejapcrap

3,311 posts

136 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Regardless of if you agree or disagree with the strike the most interesting part is the lack of news coverage.

Yes I’ve seen lots of articles etc, but I’d have thought it would get more prime time

Leicester Loyal

4,961 posts

146 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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valiant said:
They have accepted it and want to get on with life as they have a contract. The trouble is is that BG want to offer them a worse contract. It’s BG management who are moving the goalposts and it’s they who are shortsighted as the better engineers will leave and only the crappy or new ones will be left deteriorating standards which in turn will cause customers to leave.

There’s nothing wrong with being a good, well paying employer and this race to the bottom helps no one.

It seems that BG are using COVID as a cover to reduce their terms and conditions and the ‘lucky you have a job’ brigade are busy defending them rather than asking if this is correct course of action. After all, is your boiler cover price going to reduce as a consequence or, as mine did before I cancelled, go up despite no call outs the previous years?
Excellent post.