Is is the word "woke" so inflammatory for some?
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I think "some" is the operative work here. I'd suggest it is replaced by "a few". I don't think the majority find it inflammatory.
And there's two sides:
If I was accused of being "woke", I would probably find it inflammatory that my sincerely held views were being dismissed as trivial, or that they don't somehow count as much as other political views.
One might also feel it inflammatory to be challenged by "woke" views, especially if the challenge is in fact skin deep, tokenistic, or wholly incorrect. There's also a view wokeism is more about band wagon jumping than any real affinity or knowledge of the subject.
It depends entirely on the situation. Being aware of social injustice can't be a bad thing
But to me, using "woke" to tag a group is in the same category as tagging people as "gammons"... used to simultaneously dismiss as well as insult people's views, and that behaviour is inflammatory.
And there's two sides:
If I was accused of being "woke", I would probably find it inflammatory that my sincerely held views were being dismissed as trivial, or that they don't somehow count as much as other political views.
One might also feel it inflammatory to be challenged by "woke" views, especially if the challenge is in fact skin deep, tokenistic, or wholly incorrect. There's also a view wokeism is more about band wagon jumping than any real affinity or knowledge of the subject.
It depends entirely on the situation. Being aware of social injustice can't be a bad thing
But to me, using "woke" to tag a group is in the same category as tagging people as "gammons"... used to simultaneously dismiss as well as insult people's views, and that behaviour is inflammatory.
Iamnotkloot said:
Probably to do with things like this (DT: 18/2/21)
...what the woke brigade now want us to call our mums and dads...
After the NHS introduced ‘chestfeeding’, the gender-inclusive onslaught continues – meet your 'gestational parent’ and ‘non-birthing parent’
You missed "human milk" instead of breast milk, so that birthing parents without breasts aren't offended....what the woke brigade now want us to call our mums and dads...
After the NHS introduced ‘chestfeeding’, the gender-inclusive onslaught continues – meet your 'gestational parent’ and ‘non-birthing parent’
Ok, so where are you going to get your Human milk from?
Actually, don't answer that
Digger said:
What is Woke?
wokeThe act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue
Yeah most people don't care about parking spaces for families with disabled pets. I wish they were woke like me.
woke
Deluded or fake awareness.
Lebron acts woke about China, he just full of shiite.
Ian Geary said:
You missed "human milk" instead of breast milk, so that birthing parents without breasts aren't offended.
Ok, so where are you going to get your Human milk from?
Actually, don't answer that
LOL. Yes, it's "chest milk" not "human milk" which encompasses a variety of milky substancesOk, so where are you going to get your Human milk from?
Actually, don't answer that
Lotobear said:
Somewhat ironically the expression originated in black culture as a way of describing someone who is 'awake' to social injustice
Lots of people try to use it as an insult as if saying 'Ha, you're aware that some people suffer more injustice and hardship than others and on some level you don't think that's right and want to see a positive change for humanity as a whole, you massive w
ker' without actually realising it's not, in anyway, an insult.If someone called me 'woke' I'd be quite happy with that.
I guess some are offended by it because it is a term used to call out those who push a progressive authoritarian left wing agenda.
A derogatory collective term to identify political pandering for the sake of satisfying a shouty group of people who primarily follow cultural marxism ideology (the tedious game of identity politics).
So as with many who find themselves in that game, when they meet opposition to it they don't know what else to do but to shout more and call everyone who doesn't agree with them a nazi.
A derogatory collective term to identify political pandering for the sake of satisfying a shouty group of people who primarily follow cultural marxism ideology (the tedious game of identity politics).
So as with many who find themselves in that game, when they meet opposition to it they don't know what else to do but to shout more and call everyone who doesn't agree with them a nazi.
Lotobear said:
Somewhat ironically the expression originated in black culture as a way of describing someone who is 'awake' to social injustice
That’s what it meant at the start. Woke was just awake, It just gets used as an insult in the same way as social justice warrior gets used. Perhaps it’s about how into it people are or something.
Woke’s the other side of the coin to gammons, both angry groups of people just people who are angry and reactive about different issues.
It’s just some words though, hardly upsetting or inflammatory is it really? Unless you are reactive types looking to be inflamed in the first place.
The Rotrex Kid said:
Lotobear said:
Somewhat ironically the expression originated in black culture as a way of describing someone who is 'awake' to social injustice
Lots of people try to use it as an insult as if saying 'Ha, you're aware that some people suffer more injustice and hardship than others and on some level you don't think that's right and want to see a positive change for humanity as a whole, you massive wker' without actually realising it's not, in anyway, an insult.If someone called me 'woke' I'd be quite happy with that.
Woke, used as a pejorative term, tends to to be reserved for those who feel compelled to make conspicuously worthy displays to others. EDIT. See timely example below
.Edited by Crackie on Thursday 18th February 11:31
Woke would include people like William Wilberforce, Booth, Rowntree, Barnado, Leonard Cheshire, Nightingale, as well as other damn do=gooders who stopped child labour, at least partially, in the middle of the 19thC, as well as the Lord, name escapes, who stopped children being stuffed up chimneys in the late 19th. It was woke to fight for the closure of workhouses. After all, the poor brought it on themselves.
Perhaps it is inflamatory as it is often used by those who hold opinions that are likely to be called repressive in years to come.
Perhaps it is inflamatory as it is often used by those who hold opinions that are likely to be called repressive in years to come.
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