Covid tests available to all businesses

[21TonyK]

BBC says...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56302489

That will rattle a few cages

[Electro1980]

Why? Seems entirely sensible, as long as people are aware of the limits of the test.

[jameswills]

There is nothing remotely sensible in mass testing asymptomatic people with tests that are not designed to be used for mass testing asymptomatic people.

[Jasandjules]

Electro1980 said:

Why? Seems entirely sensible, as long as people are aware of the limits of the test.

Indeed. I also feel we must be cautious and test for HIV, Hep B, and broken legs. Just because people are not showing symptoms does not mean we should not have a full blood work each day along with X-Rays.. Can't be too careful.

[Douglas Quaid]

I’ll be ordering those for my business. The benefit is that I can close down and have 10 days of not earning if I test positive. What’s not to like? My mortgage should pay itself as well as the bills. Great stuff.

[Electro1980]

jameswills said:

There is nothing remotely sensible in mass testing asymptomatic people with tests that are not designed to be used for mass testing asymptomatic people.

That’s exactly what they were designed for.

[jameswills]

Electro1980 said:

That’s exactly what they were designed for.

I would like to see your working out on that.

[Electro1980]

Jasandjules said:

Electro1980 said:

Why? Seems entirely sensible, as long as people are aware of the limits of the test.

Indeed. I also feel we must be cautious and test for HIV, Hep B, and broken legs. Just because people are not showing symptoms does not mean we should not have a full blood work each day along with X-Rays.. Can't be too careful.

If people fear they might have one of those then they should get tested. Many people get tested for Hep B and HIV on a regular basis and broken legs are not generally a-symptomatic or contagious.

What is the problem with offering tests to people to reduce the likelihood of an entire business shutting down? Of course it should be optional and a positive test repeated with a PRC test, but I can’t see why anyone would think offering lateral flow tests to all businesses would be a problem.

Edited by Electro1980 on Saturday 6th March 19:10

[Bill]

Jasandjules said:

Indeed. I also feel we must be cautious and test for HIV, Hep B, and broken legs. Just because people are not showing symptoms does not mean we should not have a full blood work each day along with X-Rays.. Can't be too careful.

Are broken legs contagious and likely to result in an epidemic? Of all the daft comparisons to make!

[Electro1980]

jameswills said:

Electro1980 said:

That’s exactly what they were designed for.

I would like to see your working out on that.

That’s what they were evaluated for by Oxford and PHE. Now where is your evidence to back up the original statement that they were not designed for this?

[AndrewCrown]

Last week...I could not enter the country without a negative PCR test. I was obliged to book and pay for two more PCR tests to pass security.
Three negative PCRs before I can come out of quarantine.

Yet the LFR is being dished out as a solution?
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4848

I would be very interested to hear what employers think about this.

[jameswills]

Electro1980 said:

That’s what they were evaluated for by Oxford and PHE. Now where is your evidence to back up the original statement that they were not designed for this?

Is that your working? Did you ever do any further education?

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4469

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Well that's bullst. If you've less than 50 employees you need to direct them to the local test centres. You can still register but they need to check your eligibility.

I know the arguments against RFT but one of the companies is in close personal contact-I'd rather any of the staff who RFT+ could at least go and get a proper test to see rather than risk infecting someone unawares.

[V8 Stang]

I would only consider agreeing to a workplace test if the company agree's to pay me if I'm positive and have to isolate.....

[ch37]

The rapid tests are now also available to any parents of school kids. My wife passed the handout place today (open 1pm to 8pm 7 days a week) on the way to get food shopping, they just ask if you have a school aged kid and then hand over a load of boxes, you can go back as often as you like to get more.

[Electro1980]

jameswills said:

Electro1980 said:

That’s what they were evaluated for by Oxford and PHE. Now where is your evidence to back up the original statement that they were not designed for this?

Is that your working? Did you ever do any further education?

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4469

You claimed they are not designed for mass testing of asymptomatic people. That’s not what that says. It says they are not effective as an alternative to lockdown. That’s not what they are being used for here. What’s better, catching 50% or asymptomatic people or none? This isn’t being proposed as a way to get people back to offices. It’s being proposed as a way to test people who are already in contact with other people at work.

Perhaps you could answer the actual question rather than throw out insults and irrelevant links?

Edited by Electro1980 on Saturday 6th March 22:26

[jameswills]

Apologies on the insults it was late and I was tired. Dr Mike Yeadon knows quite a bit about testing with PCR, listen to him on it.

https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-pcr-false-positiv...

https://youtu.be/D1onx7LaNio

You stating that Oxford and PHE have approved them for use, does not mean they were designed for the job. We’re in this pandemic still because of our misuse of testing.

Edited by jameswills on Sunday 7th March 07:59