School Eliminates Bullying by Banning Games
School Eliminates Bullying by Banning Games
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bad company

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290 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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When I read this I thought maybe it was 1 April but sadly it isn’t, the story’s true.

School almost 'eliminates bullying' with break-time ban on games

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56568...

deckster

9,631 posts

279 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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That has to be a piss-take, surely?

BBC said:
pupils practise sonnets by classic poets like Shelley and Tennyson or quiz each other on capital cities, reports the Local Democracy Reporting Service.

They have memorised poems Ozymandias and The Charge of the Light Brigade and recite them as they line up for lessons or when they are eating lunch, Ms Whelan said.
In all seriousness, I'm going to suggest that this is actually a press-release about a moderately successful school poetry club which has been spun by the BBC beyond all recognition .

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Read it and checked if it was April 1st too.

A bit surprised that the charge of the light brigade is acceptably PC these days.

Misanthrope

613 posts

69 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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deckster said:
That has to be a piss-take, surely?

BBC said:
pupils practise sonnets by classic poets like Shelley and Tennyson or quiz each other on capital cities, reports the Local Democracy Reporting Service.

They have memorised poems Ozymandias and The Charge of the Light Brigade and recite them as they line up for lessons or when they are eating lunch, Ms Whelan said.
In all seriousness, I'm going to suggest that this is actually a press-release about a moderately successful school poetry club which has been spun by the BBC beyond all recognition .
Ozymandias is a good one. It'll probably stand them in good stead for the future - the ones that are left.

neilr

1,579 posts

287 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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This is the society you get by giving everyone a fking medal for simply taking part and (at my mates boys school) no one wins either. Its just two teams taking part for essentialy no reason (his boy hates it). You didnt lose, youre the last winner (to quote George Carlin). its disgusting and warping kids beyond belief, it does them a huge dis-service IMO.

Im not surprised that fking idiots in charge of our kids educations come up with crap like this these days and pat themsleves on the back for it. Even less surprising that the BBC champion it.

"supervised quizzes, poetry recitals and other activities" sounds like a barrel of laughs doesn't it.


2xChevrons

4,193 posts

104 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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neilr said:
This is the society you get by giving everyone a fking medal for simply taking part and (at my mates boys school) no one wins either. Its just two teams taking part for essentialy no reason (his boy hates it). You didnt lose, youre the last winner (to quote George Carlin). its disgusting and warping kids beyond belief, it does them a huge dis-service IMO.

Im not surprised that fking idiots in charge of our kids educations come up with crap like this these days and pat themsleves on the back for it. Even less surprising that the BBC champion it.

"supervised quizzes, poetry recitals and other activities" sounds like a barrel of laughs doesn't it.
What's any of this boilerplate "everyone gets a medal" rant got to do with the actual news story? Just see the headline and decide to paste it in?

Sounds more like the kids are kept indoors and under some sort of supervision for the entire day, so there's no chance for bullying. Or any sort of exercise, downtime, socialisation or personal growth. Fantastic.

Here's their last Ofsted report:

OFSTED said:
- Leaders and governors have failed to arrest the school’s decline.

- None of the issues raised by Ofsted during the short inspection in June 2018 have been tackled effectively.

- The school does not have an effective safeguarding culture. Record-keeping is weak, and concerns are not dealt with in a timely way. Staff have insufficient understanding of how to manage difficult behaviour.

- Frequent changes in leadership and teaching have unsettled staff and pupils. The school closed for three days at the end of June 2019 because of concerns about behaviour and safety. Staff were unable to control the situation and external intervention was needed.

- Pupils’ personal development is inadequate. Not enough opportunities are given for personal, social, health and economic education. Careers guidance is inadequate. Pupils and parents have well-founded concerns about bullying. The school environment does not promote pupils’ well-being.


I'd be amazed if the school has managed to turn around from this to its pupils spontaneously quoting Shelley of a lunch break in a year.

If I was the cynical type (me?), I'd suggest that this is a PR exercise to get that Ofsted verdict and a load of other unfavourable news stories about the school off the top of the search engine returns...


Edited by 2xChevrons on Tuesday 30th March 16:44

neilr

1,579 posts

287 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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my point (perhaps badly made) was that the everyone gets a medal society that has existed for many years now leads to crap like this. Expect more of it. in the future.

As for courting more publicity to somehow deflect from the negatives of the Ofsted report, seems a risky strategy to me but totally possible.

ShoooRn

219 posts

121 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Now hear me out... you can't escape bullies they're around and about in many different walks of life. If you mollycoddle these kids so much that they have no idea how to deal with bullies as they grow older then essentially you're doing them a disservice and they are missing part of their EDUCATION.

clockworks

7,175 posts

169 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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ShoooRn said:
Now hear me out... you can't escape bullies they're around and about in many different walks of life. If you mollycoddle these kids so much that they have no idea how to deal with bullies as they grow older then essentially you're doing them a disservice and they are missing part of their EDUCATION.
Sounds to me like you are saying that school bullying is actually "good" for kids?



Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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neilr said:
"supervised quizzes, poetry recitals and other activities" sounds like a barrel of laughs doesn't it.
Does bullying sound like a barrel of laughs to you?

bad company

Original Poster:

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290 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Pothole said:
Does bullying sound like a barrel of laughs to you?
Nobody’s going to condone bullying but I can’t see that stopping children from playing is the answer. Children need to play, it’s good for mental and physical health.

Truckosaurus

12,941 posts

308 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Also, games is a good chance for the dim kids to do something at school that they enjoy/are good at.

klan8456

963 posts

99 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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clockworks said:
Sounds to me like you are saying that school bullying is actually "good" for kids?
I can only assume he’s a child psychologist, drumming up a lifetime pipeline of future business

InitialDave

14,370 posts

143 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
games is a good chance for the dim kids to do something at school that they enjoy/are good at.
So's bullying, from my memories of school.

bad company

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
Also, games is a good chance for the dim kids to do something at school that they enjoy/are good at.
Like most of our professional footballers.

JuanCarlosFandango

9,557 posts

95 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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I'm all for a good PC gone mad rant but that doesn't sound like the worst thing in the world. It would be a shame if "unstructured" games have been done away with completely, but as someone who wasn't much into them I would have welcomed some more organised activities less prone to causing football.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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clockworks said:
Sounds to me like you are saying that school bullying is actually "good" for kids?
It's an unpleasant introduction to the real world- consider it essential education even though we'd prefer it to not exist.

deckster

9,631 posts

279 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
clockworks said:
Sounds to me like you are saying that school bullying is actually "good" for kids?
It's an unpleasant introduction to the real world- consider it essential education even though we'd prefer it to not exist.
bks is it. I wasn't bullied at school and I've never been bullied as an adult.

Murph7355

40,909 posts

280 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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deckster said:
Biggy Stardust said:
clockworks said:
Sounds to me like you are saying that school bullying is actually "good" for kids?
It's an unpleasant introduction to the real world- consider it essential education even though we'd prefer it to not exist.
bks is it. I wasn't bullied at school and I've never been bullied as an adult.
Exactly.

Maybe if the bullies were handled properly at school, there wouldn't be so many of them in the "real world".

Broadbrush management does not work with adults. And it does not work with kids. The ones causing the issues should be singled out and punished. Everyone else should be left to crack on enjoying themselves.

This school has not "nearly eliminated" bullying. It has brushed it under the carpet and is setting a bad example on many levels in the process (unless every pupil there was bullying someone).

Biggy Stardust

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68 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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deckster said:
bks is it. I wasn't bullied at school and I've never been bullied as an adult.
Never met HMRC?