Caron Nazario police traffic stop
Caron Nazario police traffic stop
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anonymous-user

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78 months

NextSlidePlease

6,108 posts

165 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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They dont, i agree, however you can tell this fker is trying to rile the police up, and all bets are off at thats stage as cops are only humans. He was asked to get out of the car a ridiculous number of times.

Non compliance suggests there is something to hide, and that gets officers backs up.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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One officer already fired.

Sheets Tabuer

21,051 posts

239 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Can you imagine if he went to undo his seat belt?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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NextSlidePlease said:


Non compliance suggests there is something to hide, and that gets officers backs up.
I i agree but like he said a traffic stop you don't have to leave the car. Plus being in uniform, he was very calm, and asked quite a few times what he was getting stopped for.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 12th April 10:11

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Can you imagine if he went to undo his seat belt?
It's the bit I don't quite understand.

"We're going to blind you with pepper spray and ask you to undo your seatbelt and get out of your car whilst we point guns at you. No sudden or unexpected movements".

NextSlidePlease

6,108 posts

165 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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The Spruce Goose said:
NextSlidePlease said:


Non compliance suggests there is something to hide, and that gets officers backs up.
I i agree but like he said a traffic stop you don't have to leave the car. Plus being in uniform, he was very calm, and asked quite few times what he was getting stopped for.
It was supposed to be a traffic stop but he took 2 minutes to pull over. That then goes from a routine stop to a high risk one, hence guns and shouting and a good kick of adrenaline.

They were very heavy handed though given he posed no threat when finally out of the car, god knows why he had to lay on the ground at that point, surely hands behind your back whilst being cuffed is enough. They were probably just pissed off.


anonymous-user

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78 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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the worst thing was, they pulled him for no plate, but when they got closer it was in the rear window.

The officer admitted driving to a safer spot happens a lot with minorities. At the end of the day he will rightly get a payout but really was heavy handed.

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

193 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Guy was clearly on a wind up which you don’t do in the USA.

Do I agree with the police actions? No. However it’s just the way of life in the USA and they need to be cautious.

DeepEnd

4,240 posts

90 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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bhstewie said:
One officer already fired.
Good. Assume it was the pepper spray gooner?

biggbn

30,478 posts

244 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
Guy was clearly on a wind up which you don’t do in the USA.

Do I agree with the police actions? No. However it’s just the way of life in the USA and they need to be cautious.
On a wind up? Really. I find that incredible. The Lieutenant reacted calmly, did not raise his voice, was, in fact, the opposite of most of the non compliance videos we see. A Lieutenant is a pretty responsible rank, the man is serving his.country for goodness sake, and only asked for reasons. Looks like the officer saw none of that.

'They' need to be cautious? Ah, well, that's OK then. It.must be 'their' own fault.

Byker28i

84,935 posts

241 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Nope guy was following recommended procedures, drive to a nearby, well lit area with your hazards on as recommended by some US forces
Coppers had lost it straight away, made up their minds and escalated to the extreme straight away.


Bill

57,438 posts

279 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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The issue was entirely in the minds of the cops and they were unable to de-escalate from a position of "black man didn't stop immediately" even when they realised he was no threat and had put their weapons away.

Fair play to the lieutenant for keeping his cool throughout.

928 GTS

571 posts

119 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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How long training those offices have had? How much of it is about de-escalating situations etc? I bet it is difficult to find any other 1st world country where one gets to be police officer with so little training as in US. In most countries rambo types will be picked out long before they pass through training. In most cases they do not even get in at all. Seems shoot first and don't ask questions later is basic requirement in US. There are way too many videos like this for behaviour to be just few people in the force.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

181 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Byker28i said:
Nope guy was following recommended procedures, drive to a nearby, well lit area with your hazards on as recommended by some US forces
Coppers had lost it straight away, made up their minds and escalated to the extreme straight away.
100% this based on the clip I saw on sky and the reporting he was following advice by stopping somewhere safe. He did not speed off ir attempt to escape. He made clear he was not based on a traffic stop required to leave his car and he made clear he felt threatened so was scared to do so. Even if he was taking this piss he 100% did not break the law or in anyway pose a threat to the officer.

dukeboy749r

3,213 posts

234 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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biggbn said:
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
Guy was clearly on a wind up which you don’t do in the USA.

Do I agree with the police actions? No. However it’s just the way of life in the USA and they need to be cautious.
On a wind up? Really. I find that incredible. The Lieutenant reacted calmly, did not raise his voice, was, in fact, the opposite of most of the non compliance videos we see. A Lieutenant is a pretty responsible rank, the man is serving his.country for goodness sake, and only asked for reasons. Looks like the officer saw none of that.

'They' need to be cautious? Ah, well, that's OK then. It.must be 'their' own fault.
Yes, but biggn, your reasonable reply does not satisfy the 'need' for BabyShark to get their point across - it MUST be a wind up. Because (sorry) you 'do that' when you have armed police trailing you.

Whereas, as Byker goes on to point out - the convention does seem to be to drive to a well lit area and then comply.

Some folk cannot help themselves but post tosh sometimes...

GroundZero

2,085 posts

78 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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I guess this will continue to happen when you have laws/constitution that allow a population to be potentially armed to the teeth, everywhere you go.

A militarised population vs a militarised police force - I doubt there will ever be calm over there.

red_slr

20,071 posts

213 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Wonder how scared the Lt will be in Afghanistan or Iraq.... nah going to chill in the MRAP today boys not feeling it. <jazz hands>

Cold

16,436 posts

114 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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The offence of Driving While Black is a big crime in the eyes of some US police officers.

poo at Paul's

14,557 posts

199 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Maybe I am blinkered having spent lots of time in the USA, and know how different things are their with Cops, etc, but it dorsnt seem that bad to me. They're a bit shouty, he doesnt comply initially, they get a bit more shouty, he ends up with a bit of pepper spray, but it's not like he gets shot or the st kicked out of him or anything.

US is a bit different to the UK, police wise, but their are some countries I've visited where it is far far worse tbh!