Rail company greeting to passengers must include LGBT+
Discussion
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1435893/London-n...
Daily Express said:
LONDON North Eastern Railway (LNER) has been forced to apologise after the conductor greeted customers by saying "ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls" following a complaint by a non-binary person.
FFS! What a piece of nonsense! 
I'd just love for the train driver in question to engage in some malicious compliance.
"Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen,Boys and girls, and Laurence from Twitter who had the courage to complain on twitter that our announcements aren't inclusive enough. Thanks a lot Laurence, whatever would we do without you"
"Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen,Boys and girls, and Laurence from Twitter who had the courage to complain on twitter that our announcements aren't inclusive enough. Thanks a lot Laurence, whatever would we do without you"
It is a bit silly ........ but why does it have to have a list of types of people at all? What purpose does it serve?
Edited to add that the article doesn't seem to tell the story that the thread thread title suggests. Can the opening poster please explain?
Edited to add that the article doesn't seem to tell the story that the thread thread title suggests. Can the opening poster please explain?
Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 14th May 17:20
Hmm
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
Randy Winkman said:
It is a bit silly ........ but why does it have to have a list of types of people at all? What purpose does it serve?
Edited to add that the article doesn't seem to tell the story that the thread thread title suggests. Can the opening poster please explain?
This is the original Tweet and reply from LNER. Someone spotted it, retweeted and commented whereby it all kicked off with not very many people having much sympathy for Laurence.Edited to add that the article doesn't seem to tell the story that the thread thread title suggests. Can the opening poster please explain?
Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 14th May 17:20
Ian Geary said:
Hmm
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
or people like you and Lawrence can "do one"?Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
There are two genders. If someone wants to transition to another one, then they become the other one. Simple.
Anyone who expects train announcers to bend over backwards to add the 79 extra genders a tiny group of people have decided to invent can suck it up- the huge majority don't have time for their games.
Einion Yrth said:
Randy Winkman said:
It is a bit silly ........ but why does it have to have a list of types of people at all? What purpose does it serve?
Bloke probably though it was a bit more polite and friendly than "Listen up, cargo".Uncle Roger would be proud.
Stigproducts said:
Ian Geary said:
Hmm
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
or people like you and Lawrence can "do one"?Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
There are two genders. If someone wants to transition to another one, then they become the other one. Simple.
Anyone who expects train announcers to bend over backwards to add the 79 extra genders a tiny group of people have decided to invent can suck it up- the huge majority don't have time for their games.
FWIW I think lawrence is being a bit daft and I think LNER could gave worded their response a little betteras to not have s go at the announcer but whether you like it or not it is the world we live in and companies will change their policies on things like this.
chrispmartha said:
Why is there need to use any genders on the announcement?
FWIW I think lawrence is being a bit daft and I think LNER could gave worded their response a little betteras to not have s go at the announcer but whether you like it or not it is the world we live in and companies will change their policies on things like this.
Only if your world revolves around Twitter...Which in itself is the equivalent of the ward in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's NestFWIW I think lawrence is being a bit daft and I think LNER could gave worded their response a little betteras to not have s go at the announcer but whether you like it or not it is the world we live in and companies will change their policies on things like this.
Ian Geary said:
Hmm
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
Maybe when 99% of the population use particular greetings the 1% should just aknowledge that its normal, and not be so pathetic.Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
chrispmartha said:
Stigproducts said:
Ian Geary said:
Hmm
Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
or people like you and Lawrence can "do one"?Short version: the conductor could have just said "good morning passengers"
Longer version:
Folk have to realise that the way we greet and refer to people isn't necessary going to stay fixed in time forever.
You can bend with the wind, or you can stand firm and get knocked over.
It's a mistake conductors should only make once: choosing a greeting like that which specifically mentions some people (and thus omits others) needs to be rethought in a period when gender identity is becoming more fluid.
The "right" or "wrong" of it is irrelevant: people just need to acknowledge that it "is".
There are two genders. If someone wants to transition to another one, then they become the other one. Simple.
Anyone who expects train announcers to bend over backwards to add the 79 extra genders a tiny group of people have decided to invent can suck it up- the huge majority don't have time for their games.
FWIW I think lawrence is being a bit daft and I think LNER could gave worded their response a little betteras to not have s go at the announcer but whether you like it or not it is the world we live in and companies will change their policies on things like this.
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