How emotionally "British" do you feel? More....
How emotionally "British" do you feel? More....

Poll: How emotionally "British" do you feel? More....

Total Members Polled: 272

British than English?: 30%
British than Irish?: 1%
British than Scottish?: 2%
British than Welsh?: 4%
English than British?: 34%
Irish than British?: 1%
Scottish than British?: 8%
Welsh than British?: 3%
No difference one way or the other: 18%
Author
Discussion

Kermit power

Original Poster:

29,622 posts

237 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I thought it might be interesting to see the extent to which people identify as British vs citizens of the Home Nations.

Obviously we've all got British Passports, but what do you identify with most at an emotional level? I'll also make the point up front that I don't think you have to be a rabid Nationalist in pursuit of independence just to feel British less than whichever other.

vixen1700

27,994 posts

294 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Probably feel more British than English as I can get on just as well with any Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish people I meet and not just the English, who in turn are vastly different from up and down the country.

Hope that makes sense. smile

Ronstein

1,637 posts

61 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I consider myself British. Born in England and I've lived here all my life, but my heritage includes Scottish and Irish. Then again, based on surname, the male line came over from Normandy in 1066, so who knows what else is in the mix. Maybe I'm just 'mostly European'.

BobsPigeon

749 posts

63 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I don't feel in the slightest bit emotional about my nationality, I feel lucky to have been born in the UK, there's plenty of stter places and it inevitably forms part of my identity and chrachter but nothing I feel is unique or particularly worth celebration or proclaiming as a virtue. I've lived and worked in other parts of the world, some better some worse.

"Nationalism is the last hiding place of the scoundrel" someone once said.

However the more the other home nations wish to proclaim independence from the UK the more inclined I am to consider myself English.

bristolbaron

5,335 posts

236 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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BobsPigeon said:
I don't feel in the slightest bit emotional about my nationality, I feel lucky to have been born in the UK, there's plenty of stter places and it inevitably forms part of my identity and chrachter but nothing I feel is unique or particularly worth celebration or proclaiming as a virtue.
Pretty much this. I don’t and wouldn’t celebrate or take pride in being English or British in any way.

Kermit power

Original Poster:

29,622 posts

237 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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bristolbaron said:
BobsPigeon said:
I don't feel in the slightest bit emotional about my nationality, I feel lucky to have been born in the UK, there's plenty of stter places and it inevitably forms part of my identity and chrachter but nothing I feel is unique or particularly worth celebration or proclaiming as a virtue.
Pretty much this. I don’t and wouldn’t celebrate or take pride in being English or British in any way.
I've added an option for you two. smile

Monkeylegend

28,475 posts

255 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Kermit power said:
bristolbaron said:
BobsPigeon said:
I don't feel in the slightest bit emotional about my nationality, I feel lucky to have been born in the UK, there's plenty of stter places and it inevitably forms part of my identity and chrachter but nothing I feel is unique or particularly worth celebration or proclaiming as a virtue.
Pretty much this. I don’t and wouldn’t celebrate or take pride in being English or British in any way.
I've added an option for you two. smile
Make it three smile

Sheets Tabuer

21,051 posts

239 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Weirdly when I lived in a city there was always a modicum of Englishness but there was definitely a British overtone or in some ways European.

Now I live in a village it is definitely English for reasons I'm not quite sure of, perhaps it's the tractors going down the lane or people sat in the pub with a sheepdog but I am sure it happens in other countries so perhaps my identity is entirely made up in my head hehe

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
Kermit power said:
bristolbaron said:
BobsPigeon said:
I don't feel in the slightest bit emotional about my nationality, I feel lucky to have been born in the UK, there's plenty of stter places and it inevitably forms part of my identity and chrachter but nothing I feel is unique or particularly worth celebration or proclaiming as a virtue.
Pretty much this. I don’t and wouldn’t celebrate or take pride in being English or British in any way.
I've added an option for you two. smile
Make it three smile
Make it four.

I have almost no interest in being classed as British or English. It's just a piece of information on my documents.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Used to feel more British than anything, but in the last say 10 years, I've been reminded almost constantly that I'm an English bd, Tory scum (never voted for them in my life), oppressor, Empire-justifier etc etc just because I live in the South East - where I was born and where my family are. So yeah, I'm English.

Fishlegs

3,238 posts

163 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Despite being a very proud Scotsman, I hold a British passport and hope to keep it that way!

Type R Tom

4,257 posts

173 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Fishlegs said:
Despite being a very proud Scotsman, I hold a British passport and hope to keep it that way!
Maybe I'm being paranoid but proud Scotsman and proud Englishman have completely different connotations.

Fishlegs

3,238 posts

163 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Type R Tom said:
Fishlegs said:
Despite being a very proud Scotsman, I hold a British passport and hope to keep it that way!
Maybe I'm being paranoid but proud Scotsman and proud Englishman have completely different connotations.
They do? Why?

valiant

13,400 posts

184 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Couldn’t care less.

Feel lucky to have been born in a developed western country with all the privileges and opportunities that most take for granted but I’m not nationalistic at all and would feel the same if I was born in France, Germany, Canada, etc.

Lines on a map do nothing for me.

Randy Winkman

20,990 posts

213 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I was born in St Paul's Cray in SE London/NW Kent and feel some attachment to that area. But that's just for amusement because basically I just feel like a homo sapien that was born on planet earth.

Stuart70

4,127 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Proud to have come from Scotland due to the history and inventiveness. Live in Kent, England and Normandy, France, lived in Italy for a while.

Good and bad in all but cannot feel any affection for English or British - lots of negative connotations relating to the nationalistic hubris. Entirely comfortable that this may just be me. I recognise that Scotland is not exactly lacking in this trait and I don’t much like it. However, the essential difference is that the Scots are the underdog in that posturing!

Hugo Stiglitz

40,730 posts

235 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I feel British more than English.

Frankthered

1,674 posts

204 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Like others, I was born in England and have lived in England the whole of my life, but I still think of myself as British more than English.

Partly this is heritage - my name is Jones and my grandfather was born in Wales and lived there until he was about 10, I believe. I'm pretty sure that at least two of my great-grandparents were Irish, so there's a mixture of the various parts of Britain, which has possibly happened to more of us than people realise.

I think my parents thought of themselves as primarily British too - both were born pre-WW2, so experienced the last days of Empire, as it were, and were proud to be British, though personally, I've always thought that the days of Britain's greatness were behind us. (For the moment, at least.)

Emotionally, I think I mostly feel like I'm from Lancashire and "northern" more than anything. I've never really got this "Englishness" that seems to be more prevalent in the south, although I do now live in the south-east. I wonder if that goes back as far as being a Saxon thing, whereas there is more of a Danish (Viking) influence in the north?

sociopath

3,433 posts

90 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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English by birth, Yorkshire by the grace of God.


Yorkshire first, English first, British last.

More Yorkshire and more English now I live in Wales and see the hate from "some" of the Welsh.

Cold

16,432 posts

114 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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The Scots hate me, the Welsh hate me and the Irish hate me. Therefore I am English. laugh