Texas to allow concealed carry handguns without permit
Discussion
Biker 1 said:
Very tempting to move to TX - I thoroughly enjoy guns, particularly M16 derivatives, but quite hard to conceal about one's person.....
Carrying of rifles and shotguns is legal in most US states (including Texas). Open-carry of handguns is legal in most states too (although in Texas you needed a permit for open and concealed carry). concealed carry is usually more regulated. This law change basically removes the need for a permit.Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 25th May 13:24
Murph7355 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
To virtually everyone without a criminal record.
What could possibly go wrong
Bearing in mind half of those carrying will have an IQ less than 98, the consequences will be depressingly predictable.
I think you'll find more than half will have an IQ less than 9.8 What could possibly go wrong

Bearing in mind half of those carrying will have an IQ less than 98, the consequences will be depressingly predictable.

simo1863 said:
That's great. Cities that allow concealed carry are usually the safest in the US.
All of those people stopping crimes being committed because they carried a gun. All those mass shootings stopped because someone decided that as a member of the public would shoot the shooter. ChocolateFrog said:
To virtually everyone without a criminal record.
What could possibly go wrong
Bearing in mind half of those carrying will have an IQ less than 98, the consequences will be depressingly predictable.
Texas' IQ ratings are about on a par with the UK so that's a bit of a sloppy generalisation to throw about. What could possibly go wrong

Bearing in mind half of those carrying will have an IQ less than 98, the consequences will be depressingly predictable.
I have a friend in (very liberal) Austin who is a well educated IT director for a large corporation. He's a gun enthusiast and a keen outdoorsman. He's looking forward to it. I very much doubt that he is going to participate in any mass shootings.
I have not really ever got involved in the whole debate, my view has always been that having a gun to defend your property is great in one respect, but also just ups the ante so that any burglar just comes armed. It's an escalation on both sides that may well end up with one person dead, potentially you.
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
PurpleTurtle said:
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
Try it. Let us know how you get on! 
PurpleTurtle said:
Texas' IQ ratings are about on a par with the UK so that's a bit of a sloppy generalisation to throw about.
I have a friend in (very liberal) Austin who is a well educated IT director for a large corporation. He's a gun enthusiast and a keen outdoorsman. He's looking forward to it. I very much doubt that he is going to participate in any mass shootings.
I have not really ever got involved in the whole debate, my view has always been that having a gun to defend your property is great in one respect, but also just ups the ante so that any burglar just comes armed. It's an escalation on both sides that may well end up with one person dead, potentially you.
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
I think they have Common Law (Self Defence) just like we do. Proportionate force / Preventative strike etcI have a friend in (very liberal) Austin who is a well educated IT director for a large corporation. He's a gun enthusiast and a keen outdoorsman. He's looking forward to it. I very much doubt that he is going to participate in any mass shootings.
I have not really ever got involved in the whole debate, my view has always been that having a gun to defend your property is great in one respect, but also just ups the ante so that any burglar just comes armed. It's an escalation on both sides that may well end up with one person dead, potentially you.
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
Edited to add: https://www.shouselaw.com/tx/crimes/defenses/self-...
Texas is a Stand Your Ground state also. No surprise there

Edited by V88Dicky on Tuesday 25th May 13:44
PurpleTurtle said:
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
Ask your "friend" surely he would know.PurpleTurtle said:
Texas' IQ ratings are about on a par with the UK so that's a bit of a sloppy generalisation to throw about.
I have a friend in (very liberal) Austin who is a well educated IT director for a large corporation. He's a gun enthusiast and a keen outdoorsman. He's looking forward to it. I very much doubt that he is going to participate in any mass shootings.
I have not really ever got involved in the whole debate, my view has always been that having a gun to defend your property is great in one respect, but also just ups the ante so that any burglar just comes armed. It's an escalation on both sides that may well end up with one person dead, potentially you.
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
How do you know that the 'perp' isn't the one in the drivers seat and the victim is the one trying to get back in their car?I have a friend in (very liberal) Austin who is a well educated IT director for a large corporation. He's a gun enthusiast and a keen outdoorsman. He's looking forward to it. I very much doubt that he is going to participate in any mass shootings.
I have not really ever got involved in the whole debate, my view has always been that having a gun to defend your property is great in one respect, but also just ups the ante so that any burglar just comes armed. It's an escalation on both sides that may well end up with one person dead, potentially you.
What is the law in Texas on actually shooting people? Say for example I see a carjacking in progress in the street and (under this new law) I have a concealed carry pistol. Am I as a witness/bystander allowed to pop a cap in the perp's ass, in defence of the victim?
bristolbaron said:

Brilliant.
"Come spank me for it"
simo1863 said:
That's great. Cities that allow concealed carry are usually the safest in the US.
More guns does not make it safer:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-gu...
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news...
As has been said an awful lot over the last few years regarding US gun laws:
Who cares?
Leave them to it. Their gaff, their rules. If they want a society where everyone is armed to the teeth and gun deaths are running at rates worse than many third world countries or South America, then fine, just let them crack on.
We all know that the answer to a society riddled with gun deaths is not 'more guns' or 'more concealed guns' but if the US wants to believe it, then let them, I have no issue with it.
If it is what they want then I'm pleased for them.
Who cares?
Leave them to it. Their gaff, their rules. If they want a society where everyone is armed to the teeth and gun deaths are running at rates worse than many third world countries or South America, then fine, just let them crack on.
We all know that the answer to a society riddled with gun deaths is not 'more guns' or 'more concealed guns' but if the US wants to believe it, then let them, I have no issue with it.
If it is what they want then I'm pleased for them.
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