Should the UK now sent its vaccine to other countries?

[superlightr]

Now the Uk has offered/given the vaccine to all of the UK High risk groups, all over 70;s all over 60, all over 50;s etc and is working their way down the age chart is it our moral duty to give the covid vaccine to those who it would be more beneficial to in other countries ?- ie those people who are in the highest risk groups that have not been vaccinated?

Should we use up a vaccine for a 20yrs old in the UK and not give it to a 75yrs old in another country? Who would the vaccine benefit the most?

[Gerradi]

If we want to stop the spread we have to stop it Globally, if India thought they should keep the Vaccines they produce we would be a big mess. Slight digression , as I said its a Global effort but I do wonder how north Korea is coping ? They could be a problem...

[superlightr]

Gerradi said:

If we want to stop the spread we have to stop it Globally, if India thought they should keep the Vaccines they produce we would be a big mess. Slight digression , as I said its a Global effort but I do wonder how north Korea is coping ? They could be a problem...

but when should we stop Jabbing our own?

[Muddle238]

superlightr said:

but when should we stop Jabbing our own?

Once everyone has been jabbed…? Weren’t not far off that date now.

[captain_cynic]

superlightr said:

Gerradi said:

If we want to stop the spread we have to stop it Globally, if India thought they should keep the Vaccines they produce we would be a big mess. Slight digression , as I said its a Global effort but I do wonder how north Korea is coping ? They could be a problem...

but when should we stop Jabbing our own?

When everyone who wants one has one (or two in this case).

Yes we should plan to send vaccines overseas, were not stopping production after we've made enough for the UK alone but by the same token, we should make sure our own back yard is in order first.

We will have produced enough to vaccinate everyone in the UK long before we actually have jabbed everyone. That being said, we'll already be filling contracts to other countries as well as vaccinating as fast as we are.

[55palfers]

Seems India is not exporting any vaccines......

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-vaccine-exp...

Maybe that may make western companies think twice about where they base their factories / source ingredients?

[Muddle238]

55palfers said:

Seems India is not exporting any vaccines......

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-vaccine-exp...

Maybe that may make western companies think twice about where they base their factories / source ingredients?

India is in a somewhat worse position than us though, last I checked they had just peaked at around 400,000 new daily cases with their healthcare services completely overwhelmed. I can sympathise why the Indian government would be putting the brakes on export at that time.

As for the UK, we’re in a far better position, but we’re not completely out the woods yet. A final push through the remaining age groups and then I’d say we’re in a good position to start sending supplies abroad to foreign nations; if it were me, I’d be sending them to the various Commonwealth nations most in need.

[anonymous-user]

A very yes/no question has been posed by the OP, the reality is somewhere in between.

Yes, we should help and make available excess vaccines we have but not to the extent we risk the gains achieved in the fight against Covid-19 here. The latest variant is a risk and sending all the vaccines that helped get us to where we are today is IMHO madness.

Its not as if these other countries would be able to send any back if they get their situations under control and our situation degrades, we will all end up in a mess.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st June 18:34

[Jasandjules]

Perhaps we could just use products that work in the first place that are far safer and cheaper?

[Gareth79]

55palfers said:

Seems India is not exporting any vaccines......

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-vaccine-exp...

Maybe that may make western companies think twice about where they base their factories / source ingredients?

I think every country with the means to produce materials critical to healthcare, infrastructure, security etc. will be reviewing everything going forward. At least for a decade or so, then it will go back to how it was.

[Liokault]

Are we not at the point now where everyone in the U.K. is going to get the jab without it being mandatory has had it?

I know in not in any at risk group but I have been able to literally just drop in for a jab for nearly a month.

I had a call with my manager in Taiwan this morning...they are F’d again...factories closing, kids back home everything shut down and they can’t get a vaccine in volume. It’s ok though, no one needs micro chips.

[dmahon]

The virtue signallers heads are going to wobble off.

On the one hand they want everything that breathes to be injected. On the other its immoral not to save everyone else before injecting our children.

My vote is yes, give them away now the vulnerable are jabbed. Especially if it gets me off the hook!

Even without the snark, it’s not right to inject 18 year olds when there are 80 year olds unprotected in other countries.

[dmahon]

Liokault said:

Are we not at the point now where everyone in the U.K. is going to get the jab without it being mandatory has had it?

Over 20s haven’t even been invited and many over 30s are still waiting. That’s approximately 10 million people.

And the same again waiting for second jabs.

So no, there are lots of people waiting here in the UK.

Edited by dmahon on Tuesday 1st June 19:13

[FourWheelDrift]

Muddle238 said:

India is in a somewhat worse position than us though, last I checked they had just peaked at around 400,000 new daily cases with their healthcare services completely overwhelmed. I can sympathise why the Indian government would be putting the brakes on export at that time.

Depending on how accurate their reporting is, they peaked high and fast and now dropping almost as quickly as it rose - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/...

[BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo]

Once we’ve jabbed the over 60s there’s little risk to anyone else. What’s the point in wasting the vaccines on the rest of the population who don’t need it?

[survivalist]

dmahon said:

The virtue signallers heads are going to wobble off.

On the one hand they want everything that breathes to be injected. On the other its immoral not to save everyone else before injecting our children.

My vote is yes, give them away now the vulnerable are jabbed. Especially if it gets me off the hook!

Even without the snark, it’s not right to inject 18 year olds when there are 80 year olds unprotected in other countries.

Completely agree. We should only be vaccinating those at risk. Covid-19 is endemic now. Let those at virtually zero risk of both death and hospitalisation acquire it naturally and deal with it.

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I voted yes, because vaccinating more vulnerable people in other countries is more important than vaccinating people in their 30’s and 20’s in this country. What use is vaccinating young people in this country, when other countries that produce stuff that we use everyday have to lockdown again because they can’t get enough vaccines to vaccinate their vulnerable citizens?

[jjones]

When every uk resident who can have the jab has been offered the jab.

[Armchair Expert]

Isn't the USA and some parts of Europe going to be vaccinating 12 year olds and older now?

I vote yes but shouldn't the president of India be sectioned in some way, he and his government failed and the result was high infaction rates.

Alsi India should pay for any vaccines received, they are a well off country.

[Terminator X]

superlightr said:

Now the Uk has offered/given the vaccine to all of the UK High risk groups, all over 70;s all over 60, all over 50;s etc and is working their way down the age chart is it our moral duty to give the covid vaccine to those who it would be more beneficial to in other countries ?- ie those people who are in the highest risk groups that have not been vaccinated?

Should we use up a vaccine for a 20yrs old in the UK and not give it to a 75yrs old in another country? Who would the vaccine benefit the most?

I personally wouldn't give it to anyone under 50 as they are pretty much all low low risk apart from rare anomalies. Keep what we have bought for us though as who knows what the future may bring eg vaccines twice a year etc.

TX.