Sajid Javid MP
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Rather than put this in the Matt Hancock thread this chap deserves his own thread.
Hopefully he will get to grips with stuff. Keep a sensible eye on things and not get to swayed by the "lock us all down and kicj the can down the road" brigade.
He seems quite a reasonable chap and if he can avoid cock ups and just do a decent job he should be allowed to get on with it
Hopefully he will get to grips with stuff. Keep a sensible eye on things and not get to swayed by the "lock us all down and kicj the can down the road" brigade.
He seems quite a reasonable chap and if he can avoid cock ups and just do a decent job he should be allowed to get on with it
He's gone down in my estimation by advocating the raising of the minimum legal age for marriage to 18 to try and combat forced marriages in this country whilst at the same time not raising the age of consent to the same. How the hell does he think that's going to work then? You can have sex and get pregnant at 16 but you are not allowed to marry the father?
king arthur said:
He's gone down in my estimation by advocating the raising of the minimum legal age for marriage to 18 to try and combat forced marriages in this country whilst at the same time not raising the age of consent to the same. How the hell does he think that's going to work then? You can have sex and get pregnant at 16 but you are not allowed to marry the father?
In terms of how relevant that restriction is though for the general public would be how many girls are getting married at 16 and 17 who are NOT in arranged marriages. A quick look online, and if this year is representative, suggests that the total for all is 200.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
Jasandjules said:
El stovey said:
I like Javid, possibly a future party leader.
Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
If he has principles then he won't be leader.........Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
I think Mancock has enjoyed surfing the success of the vaccine and his new found importance a little too much.
The longer he could drag out the vax/lock down/restriction measures, the longer he could cling to some semblance of power. He wasn't going to give it up easily. Perhaps he just needed a little encouragement to go...
Javid is the new broom, lots of warm words about standing on the shoulders of giants/NHS workers etc, now it's time to get on with life/rebuilding the economy/build back better/insert buzzword etc etc.
He's a damn sight better choice than Gove!
The longer he could drag out the vax/lock down/restriction measures, the longer he could cling to some semblance of power. He wasn't going to give it up easily. Perhaps he just needed a little encouragement to go...
Javid is the new broom, lots of warm words about standing on the shoulders of giants/NHS workers etc, now it's time to get on with life/rebuilding the economy/build back better/insert buzzword etc etc.
He's a damn sight better choice than Gove!
El stovey said:
I like Javid, possibly a future party leader.
Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
Quite agree. He’s the only member of the cabinet that I have any respect for. Time will tell how effective he is in his new role. Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
El stovey said:
I like Javid, possibly a future party leader.
Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
Agreed.Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
Also - he came from humble origins. Dad came over from Pakistan with a pound in his pocket, worked as a bus driver. Javid went to a state school then university then made money in the city. No silver spoon, no nepotism, just hard work (and some luck for sure).
I think he has a very good chance at being leader, but whether he can handle an unruly Tory party is another question. I get the feeling that he lacks the ruthless streak that you need in order to survive at the top.
In many ways he reminds me of John Major.
biggbn said:
I have always found him quite reasonable if slightly bland, the archetypal safe pair of hands. Hope he does well and brings some stability to the clown show.
Tend to agree. I just hope he gets on with the job matter-of-fact without falling into the "you're all heroes" trap. It needs grabbing by the collar and dragging out of the s
t, not pats on the back. rover 623gsi said:
In some ways he has it quite easy - we're over the worst of it so all he has to do is be 'not as st as Hancock' and he'll be seen as doing a good job.
The NHS is a hot potato I'd rather leave to someone else unless I was given some serious power and that's never going to happen. It's actually better Liebour take it over fairly soon, run it into the ground and then something in the way of reform be attempted. It's a poison chalice pretty much. t as Hancock' and he'll be seen as doing a good job. El stovey said:
I like Javid, possibly a future party leader.
Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
I'm not sure it's "principled" to quit when your job has been made completely untenable.Seems to have a rare mix of political and business experience and was principled enough to quit over the whole shoddy Cummings/Boris advisors thing.
He makes me nervous the same way Starmer made me nervous - people seem keen to project ideals of competence on him without much evidence of the sort of leadership you need in the political arena.
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