Bill Cosby to be released
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Having lots of people all say "oh yeah he did that to me too" which automatically equals "there you go then, pattern of behavior, send him down" always struck me as against the principles of "innocent until proven guilty" and open to abuse. Just find 5 friends and wait for the compensation to roll in.
Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
k.Stigproducts said:
Having lots of people all say "oh yeah he did that to me too" which automatically equals "there you go then, pattern of behavior, send him down" always struck me as against the principles of "innocent until proven guilty" and open to abuse. Just find 5 friends and wait for the compensation to roll in.
Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
He's not being released because he's innocent.Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
I read an article on this and the legal reason for the acquittal wasn’t clear to me. It stated that there was an agreement with a former prosecutor that he wouldn’t be prosecuted. But it never said why that agreement was reached. I thought that normally in plea bargaining you had to do something eg provide evidence or be a witness in another more serious case to escape prosecution.
The US legal system is puzzling to me.
A few days back I came across the term “Chewbacca defence”. Researching that led me to read up on the OJ Simpson case. I am not sure if I ever knew the details but going back over the evidence about the only thing missing was an eye witness account or CTV of OJ doing the deed: documented history of extreme, domestic violence, motive, no alibi and a mountain of forensic evidence (eg victims blood in his car and on his clothes). Yet he was acquitted. After reading that I am no longer surprised by anything in the US
The US legal system is puzzling to me.
A few days back I came across the term “Chewbacca defence”. Researching that led me to read up on the OJ Simpson case. I am not sure if I ever knew the details but going back over the evidence about the only thing missing was an eye witness account or CTV of OJ doing the deed: documented history of extreme, domestic violence, motive, no alibi and a mountain of forensic evidence (eg victims blood in his car and on his clothes). Yet he was acquitted. After reading that I am no longer surprised by anything in the US
paulguitar said:
Stigproducts said:
Having lots of people all say "oh yeah he did that to me too" which automatically equals "there you go then, pattern of behavior, send him down" always struck me as against the principles of "innocent until proven guilty" and open to abuse. Just find 5 friends and wait for the compensation to roll in.
Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
He's not being released because he's innocent.Whats that saying? "“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"
he might be the guilty one here, if you want, but the precedent deems that you could be the innocent one next in line.
Innocent until proven guilty, therefore he is innocent.
Maybe you think he is guilty of a crime and that's fair enough, but until found guilty by a fair and impartial jury, he is innocent.
Stigproducts said:
Not sure I agree with that. The conviction is being overturned, therefore he has now not been found guilty of any crime.
Innocent until proven guilty, therefore he is innocent.
Maybe you think he is guilty of a crime and that's fair enough, but until found guilty by a fair and impartial jury, he is innocent.
Agree he is innocent, saying that would not let him take my mum out for drinks. Innocent until proven guilty, therefore he is innocent.
Maybe you think he is guilty of a crime and that's fair enough, but until found guilty by a fair and impartial jury, he is innocent.
paulguitar said:
He's not being released because he's innocent.
That's a hell of a shout seeing as the technicality means he could never be charged, what we do know is, if he had been charged a court would have found him guilty. With this knowledge is he still innocent ? Surely he's Guilty not charged.tribalsurfer said:
paulguitar said:
He's not being released because he's innocent.
That's a hell of a shout seeing as the technicality means he could never be charged, what we do know is, if he had been charged a court would have found him guilty. With this knowledge is he still innocent ? Surely he's Guilty not charged.'In their decision, the judges also found that testimony from accusers unrelated to the case had tainted the trial.'
If you cant accept presumed innocence anyone could be susceptible to accusations of guilt not charged
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