DVLA again found wanting
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Dixy

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3,465 posts

228 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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The DVLA has yet again been found out for what PH has said for years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57916619
When will the government realise the state it is in and pull us out of its misery.

Scotty2

1,424 posts

289 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Just try and book a car theory test!

My sons one was moved 3 times then cancelled. They tell you to go online and book a new test. The website allows you to look at up to 4 months ahead. No slots available at all.


croyde

25,580 posts

253 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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My girlfriend sat with her phone and kept pressing refresh all evening into the night and all the next morning until she managed to get a driving test in 3 months time.

She was originally offered next year.

She better bloody pass it.

Currently waiting for the V5 for a secondhand car she bought. Been 5 weeks now and the council parking people want proof of ownership or she'll be getting tickets for parking outside her own house, even though she has paid for the annual permit.

Must be so many people in similar situations.

98elise

31,424 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Scotty2 said:
Just try and book a car theory test!

My sons one was moved 3 times then cancelled. They tell you to go online and book a new test. The website allows you to look at up to 4 months ahead. No slots available at all.
Do you mean the practical?

My son had no issue getting a theory test, but getting a practical test is near impossible.

He was ready to take his test when Covid hit. Since then it's been booked and cancelled multiple times for lockdowns. Theory test expiry dates were not extended so that expired and he had to retake that, as well as pay for an extra years worth of practical lessons.

The earliest practical test date he's got is December, nearly 2 years after his instructor said he was ready for the test.

Scotty2

1,424 posts

289 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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That is like my youngest's tale.
Middle son waiting on Car Theory Test - No appointments available.

Youngest - Had test booked earlier this year. Moved twice and now on Aug 9th. He is more than capable of passing, but if he fails, god knows when he would get another. He has sat his CBT as a plan B so he can go down the "wheels to Work" scheme if required.

All these poor sods that have passed a Theory Test (valid 2 years) that will now be expiring because they can't get a test. I asked my MP if they would be extending the validity like they did with MOTs. He checked up and found that they had no plans to do so...

I also hear that the utterly pointless (in current form) CPC is also causing issues.

mr mac i

274 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Croyde said:


Currently waiting for the V5 for a secondhand car she bought. Been 5 weeks now and the council parking people want proof of ownership or she'll be getting tickets for parking outside her own house, even though she has paid for the annual permit.

Must be so many people in similar situations.
Do you have a receipt for the car?

Maybe a photo of the top of any V5 with the good old "This document is not proof of ownership" section highlighted would be useful alongside the receipt?

Otispunkmeyer

13,593 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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I can't believe they haven't been able to work out a way to work from home, when nearly everyone else, including other parts of the civil service (with just as much data privacy need) have. Seems like they just sent everyone home and are sat waiting it out?

nelly1

5,662 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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98elise said:
Scotty2 said:
Just try and book a car theory test!

My sons one was moved 3 times then cancelled. They tell you to go online and book a new test. The website allows you to look at up to 4 months ahead. No slots available at all.
Do you mean the practical?

My son had no issue getting a theory test, but getting a practical test is near impossible.

He was ready to take his test when Covid hit. Since then it's been booked and cancelled multiple times for lockdowns. Theory test expiry dates were not extended so that expired and he had to retake that, as well as pay for an extra years worth of practical lessons.

The earliest practical test date he's got is December, nearly 2 years after his instructor said he was ready for the test.
Ditto with my Eldest - his test is in 2 weeks.

If he passes he'll be nearly 20!

At least the insurance should be cheaper, right? irked

A Winner Is You

25,814 posts

250 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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2 months I've now been waiting for them to remove the private plate on a car I've sold, which in the meantime I'm still paying to tax and is stuck at the dealers. For some unfathomable reason, if a car has been untaxed at some point in its life you can't just do the transfer online. Try and ring them and you'll get an automated message saying use the online chat. Try and use the online chat and no one will answer. But why do they need to worry about improving their service? It's not as if we could take our business somewhere else.

acd80

751 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Scotty2 said:
Just try and book a car theory test!

My sons one was moved 3 times then cancelled. They tell you to go online and book a new test. The website allows you to look at up to 4 months ahead. No slots available at all.
That's a DVSA issue, not a DVLA issue. They're separate Agencies under DfT. I'm not defending the latter as I know how useless they can be but that's like blaming the Maritime and Coastguard Agency for an MOT backlog...

B'stard Child

30,805 posts

269 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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A Winner Is You said:
2 months I've now been waiting for them to remove the private plate on a car I've sold, which in the meantime I'm still paying to tax and is stuck at the dealers. For some unfathomable reason, if a car has been untaxed at some point in its life you can't just do the transfer online. Try and ring them and you'll get an automated message saying use the online chat. Try and use the online chat and no one will answer. But why do they need to worry about improving their service? It's not as if we could take our business somewhere else.
Not true

1. you can remove a plate from a currently taxed car on line without issue - even if there has been a "tax break" in the past

2. you can remove a plate from an untaxed car for up to 5 years after last taxed provided no break in tax/sorn status

The issue is when the DVLA "assesment process gets it's knickers in a twist" and says no then you need to speak to a human and find out why it says no

Hill92

5,224 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I can't believe they haven't been able to work out a way to work from home, when nearly everyone else, including other parts of the civil service (with just as much data privacy need) have. Seems like they just sent everyone home and are sat waiting it out?
Quite the opposite it seems - they wee insisting that 2,500 staff came into the office everyday. At the one point they had the most cases in a single workplace anywhere in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56647149

efcgriswold

304 posts

62 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Hill92 said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
I can't believe they haven't been able to work out a way to work from home, when nearly everyone else, including other parts of the civil service (with just as much data privacy need) have. Seems like they just sent everyone home and are sat waiting it out?
Quite the opposite it seems - they wee insisting that 2,500 staff came into the office everyday. At the one point they had the most cases in a single workplace anywhere in the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56647149
Is this why they are striking? Gov offered them some additional leave and a one off £200 to say thank you and then took the offer away?

HappyClappy

953 posts

96 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Scratch a little beneath the surface and you will find this has been quite a common theme for many civil servants home shirking on full pay during this pandemic.

Explains why they never want it to end.

CoolHands

22,272 posts

218 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Wales

+ incompetent management. I wonder what big money they’re on? I googled chief executive Julie Leonard but nothing much comes up. Probably creaming it.

SVX

2,188 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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They are a bunch of incompetent 'tards who can't spell Ambulance correctly.

In my situation, I took a tumble down the stairs, and knocked myself out. This is classed as a head injury, and had to surrender my plastic licence, despite a clear MRI scan, letter from the Surgeon Consultant and my GP, I've been asked to go for a blood test. Except I can't go, there are no slots available. This has been going on for 2.5 years. To complicate matters, several of my wifes' colleagues have tested positive for Covid, so I couldn't attend if I wanted to. Utterly incompetent.


devnull

3,847 posts

180 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Been to the DVLA head office as a client many times.

I can confirm that it’s a very odd place and none of the stories surprise me, shall we say.

A Winner Is You

25,814 posts

250 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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B'stard Child said:
A Winner Is You said:
2 months I've now been waiting for them to remove the private plate on a car I've sold, which in the meantime I'm still paying to tax and is stuck at the dealers. For some unfathomable reason, if a car has been untaxed at some point in its life you can't just do the transfer online. Try and ring them and you'll get an automated message saying use the online chat. Try and use the online chat and no one will answer. But why do they need to worry about improving their service? It's not as if we could take our business somewhere else.
Not true

1. you can remove a plate from a currently taxed car on line without issue - even if there has been a "tax break" in the past

2. you can remove a plate from an untaxed car for up to 5 years after last taxed provided no break in tax/sorn status

The issue is when the DVLA "assesment process gets it's knickers in a twist" and says no then you need to speak to a human and find out why it says no
I tried removing the plate online, you just get an error message saying it's not possible and to contact them directly.

Evanivitch

25,861 posts

145 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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The DVLA's entire administration is based in paperwork. It's unreal how much paper is still required to go around the system for V5C, medical forms, legal notices. There was just no investment in a full progression to digital systems and records management.

CoolHands said:
Wales
What of it?

robinessex

11,881 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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I had to surrender my driving license 6 months ago, because of my age, and they would issue me with a new one. I'm still waiting.

Edited by robinessex on Thursday 22 July 08:30