Yet another ... OAP launch !
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/22/major-...
Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
Presumably refers to oldsters confusing the accelerator for the brake with any pedestrians in the vicinity as collateral damage ? Agree they are a menace.
Perhaps there needs to be some kind of OAP mode to limit power output when maneuvering at low speeds ? EV torque would do some serious damage !
Perhaps there needs to be some kind of OAP mode to limit power output when maneuvering at low speeds ? EV torque would do some serious damage !
Newton472 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/22/major-...
Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
Better still just give your telephone number to all of the OAPs in your immediate area and let them know you are happy to be on call to drive them wherever they need to go whenever they need you to. They don't need to drive at all then so the minor inconvenience of being their free taxi service has to be worth the reduction in risk due to your massively superior driving skills. You never know they might leave you something in their will which will be most welcome after driving them around for 20 -25 years.Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
/sarcasm
It was interesting hearing the pronunciations of that place name on BBC radio lastnight. I presume the first one I heard knew how it was pronounced. It's pronounced 'Ponty Clean'? The u takes on a y sound?
They're good looking cars for what they are those Pumas. When the BBC news person said Ford Puma I did arrive at the new one after concluding it's unlikely they were driving a little Coupe from the 90s.
They're good looking cars for what they are those Pumas. When the BBC news person said Ford Puma I did arrive at the new one after concluding it's unlikely they were driving a little Coupe from the 90s.
Toltec said:
Newton472 said:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/22/major-...
Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
Better still just give your telephone number to all of the OAPs in your immediate area and let them know you are happy to be on call to drive them wherever they need to go whenever they need you to. They don't need to drive at all then so the minor inconvenience of being their free taxi service has to be worth the reduction in risk due to your massively superior driving skills. You never know they might leave you something in their will which will be most welcome after driving them around for 20 -25 years.Ban autos for >65s ? Just wait for electric and they'll end up in orbit..
/sarcasm
There is nothing quite as infuriating as the look of confusion on an oldsters wrinkly old face just after they've done something dangerous at the wheel. They are quite happy to lie through their teeth to maintain their record of having driven 70 years without ever having an accident or being caught speeding.
My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
DazzaSport said:
Statistically, it's not OAP's you have to worry about.
I'm sure I read a few years ago, that more people crash / die in their teens / early 20's than any other age bracket.
So, let's ban them from the roads too?
When these threads come up, I assume it's the sort of crashes that draw the interest.I'm sure I read a few years ago, that more people crash / die in their teens / early 20's than any other age bracket.
So, let's ban them from the roads too?
When younger people crash/die it's so often due to them doing something they really shouldn't have been (drink driving, drug driving, whanging it round the lanes too fast). Whereas the OAP crashes of note happen when someone is doing something innocuous such as starting up their car when facing a plateglass window.
We can legislate against driving like a prat, but we can't legislate against becoming confused.
Most OAPs I know drive new cars and change them every few years, so more and more of the potentially confused will have crash-prevention systems to save the rest of us.
True that better tech will better protect us from the terminally confused, not convinced it will eradicate the crashes.
Doesn't help with the ones who manage to go the wrong way down a dual carriageway or similar.
Or do 42mph everywhere and can't see in focus further than the end of the bonnet.
Or can't see at night when headlights come the other way, but still get in the car and drive anyway.
Lots of older people, who can still drive well at the moment, will be along to say ban youngsters because they crash more.
I think we should look at cracking every nut we reasonably can. Not just the biggest one.
Doesn't help with the ones who manage to go the wrong way down a dual carriageway or similar.
Or do 42mph everywhere and can't see in focus further than the end of the bonnet.
Or can't see at night when headlights come the other way, but still get in the car and drive anyway.
Lots of older people, who can still drive well at the moment, will be along to say ban youngsters because they crash more.
I think we should look at cracking every nut we reasonably can. Not just the biggest one.
Newarch said:
There is nothing quite as infuriating as the look of confusion on an oldsters wrinkly old face just after they've done something dangerous at the wheel. They are quite happy to lie through their teeth to maintain their record of having driven 70 years without ever having an accident or being caught speeding.
My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
I think some people play on it - I know my grandad once got off 50mph in a 30mph by doing the sweet old Welshman act. My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
I was also on the receiving end of it after having to mount a (thankfully low, and nowhere pedestrians would ever be) kerb to avoid getting spanked by a Skoda Yeti that did a tyre-screeching swoop across 3 lanes of a motorway junction roundabout at me. When I caught up with him down the road to ask how he wanted to pay for my trashed wheel, he politely said "Well I was going to go to x, but then I changed my mind and decided at the last minute to go to y". Full-on doddery old man act, despite driving like a Barry 100 yards earlier. If he'd been belligerent and told me to do one I'd have probably followed it up way more than is sensible, but instead the pretence of vulnerability made me leave it for the sake of a wheel refurb. Good strategy on his part.
carinaman said:
It was interesting hearing the pronunciations of that place name on BBC radio lastnight. I presume the first one I heard knew how it was pronounced. It's pronounced 'Ponty Clean'? The u takes on a y sound?
They're good looking cars for what they are those Pumas. When the BBC news person said Ford Puma I did arrive at the new one after concluding it's unlikely they were driving a little Coupe from the 90s.
It’s pont - y - clunThey're good looking cars for what they are those Pumas. When the BBC news person said Ford Puma I did arrive at the new one after concluding it's unlikely they were driving a little Coupe from the 90s.
So pronounced ponty- clun
I drove past the scene and I assumed someone had jumped off the railway bridge
Its funny how racism gets pounced on, homophobia similarly gets called out by and large, sexism to a lesser degree but discrimination on grounds of age is acceptable ?
There are plenty of older folk who drive perfectly, there are those folk that should hang up, or be forced to hang up there keys as age has made their driving standard drop but a lot of the time, people sometimes just have incidents behind the wheel and its not attributable to their age, though this one does seem to point to that.
If it is, down to infirmity then it should be called out, but a little respect and calling people "Buffers", "Giffers", "Gimmers", "Codgers" and "Coffin Dodgers" sounds rather unpleasant and unnecessary. Older people aren't a separate species and it happens to all of us, dont see the need for the derogatory terms.
There are plenty of people who are unfit to drive a lot younger than 65, there are plenty over that age who are spot on and everything in-between.
There are plenty of older folk who drive perfectly, there are those folk that should hang up, or be forced to hang up there keys as age has made their driving standard drop but a lot of the time, people sometimes just have incidents behind the wheel and its not attributable to their age, though this one does seem to point to that.
If it is, down to infirmity then it should be called out, but a little respect and calling people "Buffers", "Giffers", "Gimmers", "Codgers" and "Coffin Dodgers" sounds rather unpleasant and unnecessary. Older people aren't a separate species and it happens to all of us, dont see the need for the derogatory terms.
There are plenty of people who are unfit to drive a lot younger than 65, there are plenty over that age who are spot on and everything in-between.
donkmeister said:
Newarch said:
There is nothing quite as infuriating as the look of confusion on an oldsters wrinkly old face just after they've done something dangerous at the wheel. They are quite happy to lie through their teeth to maintain their record of having driven 70 years without ever having an accident or being caught speeding.
My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
I think some people play on it - I know my grandad once got off 50mph in a 30mph by doing the sweet old Welshman act. My old Mini was written off by an old git pulling out of a side junction onto an A road, he was looking in the opposite direction at the time, and exiting a pub carpark.
I was also on the receiving end of it after having to mount a (thankfully low, and nowhere pedestrians would ever be) kerb to avoid getting spanked by a Skoda Yeti that did a tyre-screeching swoop across 3 lanes of a motorway junction roundabout at me. When I caught up with him down the road to ask how he wanted to pay for my trashed wheel, he politely said "Well I was going to go to x, but then I changed my mind and decided at the last minute to go to y". Full-on doddery old man act, despite driving like a Barry 100 yards earlier. If he'd been belligerent and told me to do one I'd have probably followed it up way more than is sensible, but instead the pretence of vulnerability made me leave it for the sake of a wheel refurb. Good strategy on his part.
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