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Faced with the rise of China as a global economy, the rise of Cyber, Global Britain, a national skills gap, kids massively f
ked over by the pandemic, Gavin Williamson wants more Latin.
Thousands more students to learn ancient and modern languages
Open to being convinced but seriously?
ked over by the pandemic, Gavin Williamson wants more Latin.Thousands more students to learn ancient and modern languages
Open to being convinced but seriously?
The argument ment was so it was less elitist, like say owning a rolls Royce should all kids get one of them too. We should be teaching all kids how to code, about software design, AI, internet of things and mobile technology. I am am amazed at graduates in banks who don't even have basic excel skills.
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
Gecko1978 said:
The argument ment was so it was less elitist, like say owning a rolls Royce should all kids get one of them too. We should be teaching all kids how to code, about software design, AI, internet of things and mobile technology. I am am amazed at graduates in banks who don't even have basic excel skills.
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
My wife finds the same in nursing. Those born in the 80s have pretty good IT skills. Those born pre-80s struggle with those new fandangled keyboards, those born in the 90s are confused by anything more than a touchscreen tablet Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
Gecko1978 said:
The argument ment was so it was less elitist, like say owning a rolls Royce should all kids get one of them too. We should be teaching all kids how to code, about software design, AI, internet of things and mobile technology. I am am amazed at graduates in banks who don't even have basic excel skills.
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
That's a great argument isn't it?. Latin might be pointless but kids from Eton do it and they get on every well in life so if we teach it to other kids they will do as well as Eton kids. Edited to add that I appreciate it's not just about Latin. The usual clickbait tactic of highlighting perhaps the least important bit of the story.
Edited by Randy Winkman on Saturday 31st July 16:22
Gecko1978 said:
The argument ment was so it was less elitist, like say owning a rolls Royce should all kids get one of them too. We should be teaching all kids how to code, about software design, AI, internet of things and mobile technology. I am am amazed at graduates in banks who don't even have basic excel skills.
Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
Definitely a better class of graffiti in latin Course latin is useful if you like to read the graffiti on the M1 Carpe diem going north and Carpe noctem going south, I believe helch is latin for
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...
I did Latin at school. It was a compulsory subject for the first 3 years. I decided to carry on and do it at O level, and passed. Only 6 of us in the class, so not a popular option.
Everyone had to do a foreign language at O level. I picked Latin, as it was the only foreign language that didn't have an oral exam as part of the O level. Took a bit of back and forth before the teachers worked out that it wasn't against the school rules to take Latin as my only foreign language.
I actually found it quite useful at the time with other subjects. It's a very logical language, so relatively easy to learn.
Everyone had to do a foreign language at O level. I picked Latin, as it was the only foreign language that didn't have an oral exam as part of the O level. Took a bit of back and forth before the teachers worked out that it wasn't against the school rules to take Latin as my only foreign language.
I actually found it quite useful at the time with other subjects. It's a very logical language, so relatively easy to learn.
The skills latin teaches you have always been put forward as the reason for using a dead language. While this might be true I think it smacks a lot more of let's just make sure all kids learn stuff posh kids do. Virtue signaling bs basically. My kids go to a school where latin is taught, some of her friends have parents who are so vastly wealthy they could learn esperanto and it would make no difference to their outcomes. Education in the UK should be geared to outcomes not virtue signalling.
Few years ago we went to Sheffield wife an I for a concert and decided to take a country route rather than M1. We drove through a few small towns and what I saw convinced me huge swaths of the UK population adult and children are basically left out of society and nothing in the last 30 years has made a blind bit of difference.
Few years ago we went to Sheffield wife an I for a concert and decided to take a country route rather than M1. We drove through a few small towns and what I saw convinced me huge swaths of the UK population adult and children are basically left out of society and nothing in the last 30 years has made a blind bit of difference.
Gecko1978 said:
We drove through a few small towns and what I saw convinced me huge swaths of the UK population adult and children are basically left out of society and nothing in the last 30 years has made a blind bit of difference.
Unfortunately true. Not only left out but totally forgotten. People do not realise there is vast swathes of rural and semi urban poverty in communities up to small cities that simply don’t have any investment or opportunities to do anything. People like to shout about hard work and taking opportunities, but they don’t realise that there are people for whom that is impossible.The advantage of learning Latin is that there are so many languages derived or massively influenced by it that learning almost any modern european language will be significantly easier. Learning about cultural heritage is always a good thing as well.
Also being able to quote Cicero and Ovid in the original will convince any employer that you are clearly a cultured genius a cut above mere mortals who should be hired at once
Also being able to quote Cicero and Ovid in the original will convince any employer that you are clearly a cultured genius a cut above mere mortals who should be hired at once
I went to a bog standard comprehensive, in a bog standard town, but Latin was compulsory in my 3rd year. The teacher was a bit of a throbber, and there was no way I would have chosen it as an O-Level option (in 1978), but I have never, ever regretted the year I spent in Latin class.
It just has something fundamental about it that provides a very solid educational core.
It just has something fundamental about it that provides a very solid educational core.
BritishBlitz87 said:
The advantage of learning Latin is that there are so many languages derived or massively influenced by it that learning almost any modern european language will be significantly easier.
Agree, no reason to learn Latin as a language but an understanding of it is really useful when it comes to learning French, Spanish, Italian etc and enables you to pick those up a lot quicker. bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Faced with the rise of China as a global economy, the rise of Cyber, Global Britain, a national skills gap, kids massively fked over by the pandemic, Gavin Williamson wants more Latin.
Thousands more students to learn ancient and modern languages
Open to being convinced but seriously?
Mandarin has apparently been getting a 16m educational boost.... ked over by the pandemic, Gavin Williamson wants more Latin.Thousands more students to learn ancient and modern languages
Open to being convinced but seriously?
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
My wife finds the same in nursing. Those born in the 80s have pretty good IT skills. Those born pre-80s struggle with those new fandangled keyboards, those born in the 90s are confused by anything more than a touchscreen tablet
I must be doing it wrong. Born in 75, I touch-type and do all the company's Vba code. 
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