When is offering stuff on your front lawn fly tipping

[saaby93]

Someone put a childs desk on their front lawn to see if anyone local wanted it and received a £400 fine for flytipping

https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/crouch-end-choir-co...

[the-sharpener]

Mmm

Whats the back story

unless the council are grade A tts

[Getragdogleg]

the-sharpener said:

Mmm


unless the council are grade A tts

Its a council, chances are high its that.

[Tom Logan]

How can it possibly be fly tipping in their own garden?

jesus christ the world's gone loopy.

[crankedup5]

Would have thought a warning letter would have sufficed, seems an extremely harsh over reaction issuing a fine.

[Bacon Is Proof]

Dumped on the street (no mention of lawn in the article), could have been there for weeks.
I wonder what she did to ps off the neighbour who grassed her up?

[crankedup5]

Tom Logan said:

How can it possibly be fly tipping in their own garden?

jesus christ the world's gone loopy.

It was placed on the street pavement. Bloody harsh though.

[efcgriswold]

Grade A s

[Tom Logan]

crankedup5 said:

Tom Logan said:

How can it possibly be fly tipping in their own garden?

jesus christ the world's gone loopy.

It was placed on the street pavement. Bloody harsh though.

Ah thanks, I was just going from the thread title, didn't read the article.

[saaby93]

Tom Logan said:

crankedup5 said:

Tom Logan said:

How can it possibly be fly tipping in their own garden?

jesus christ the world's gone loopy.

It was placed on the street pavement. Bloody harsh though.

Ah thanks, I was just going from the thread title, didn't read the article.

My bad

[anonymous-user]

Difficult one.

Yes, the council are probably being silly, and completely over reacting, but..

Many people do put old furniture (and stuff that could be deemed just rubbish) out on the street with a note on it saying "Free. Please take" purely so they don't actually have to bother with disposing of it properly or taking it somewhere.

I walked past a house the other day and they had put a pile of knackered old internal doors out the front with a note saying "Free" on them. They were there for the best part of two weeks, making the place look a mess, before I presume the home owner was forced to take them to the tip themselves or someone had complained.

So yeah, a fine line between people genuinely wanting to give away usable stuff to others for free, and just making a mess on the street.

In this case, I have no doubt that the women just had good intentions and the council should really refund the fine.

[Hoofy]

crankedup5 said:

Tom Logan said:

How can it possibly be fly tipping in their own garden?

jesus christ the world's gone loopy.

It was placed on the street pavement. Bloody harsh though.

Tried to find out where exactly she placed it but failed. Mind you I couldn't be arsed to not speed read the article.

Anyway, that was stupid of her to put it there. If it was in her private space then that would be fine.

[saaby93]

People do put stuff out for the Council to collect for a fee. Perhaps there's a monetary issue to consider if the Counci dont make anything on the deal.

What about put it out for a week if no-one collects, pay the Council to take it?

[Randy Winkman]

I'd have thought it obvious that leaving old stuff on the pavement in the hope that someone will want it is going to lead to a fine. It's just like leaving your old stuff outside the charity shop in the hope that they will want it. Unhelpful.

[Rh14n]

My elderly parents had a new three piece suite delivered today. Two weeks ago I requested the local council to collect their old suite (and paying £24 for the privilege). We were told that they'd be collected within 3 weeks. I telephoned the council yesterday hoping for a rough idea as to when they would be collected only to be told that they had delays and it would now take up to 6 weeks! I asked them what they we should do in the meantime to which they had no reply? I suggested that perhaps we should just leave them out on the street or in a lay-by somewhere? It's pathetic ... people are trying to 'do the right thing' but the service provided is awful.

[Hoofy]

saaby93 said:

People do put stuff out for the Council to collect for a fee. Perhaps there's a monetary issue to consider if the Counci dont make anything on the deal.

What about put it out for a week if no-one collects, pay the Council to take it?

There's a difference between that and just leaving it out. I've had the council collect old sofas in the past and you have to arrange and pay beforehand.

[poo at Paul's]

Incredible that you can be fined for fly tipping by have a sofa in your own front room that you are even sitting on.
What has the world come to.

[untakenname]

Imo it's deserved, notice in the article they say 'outside her home' which means reading between the lines that she lives in a flat with a communal area surrounding it so it's not like she's left it in her front garden, was likely a piece of tat as well rather than a nice antique which would be gone within five minutes.

When lockdown hit last year there was so much crap left outside peoples houses as the charity shops were shut which then encouraged reprobates to stop when they drove by and then poke around.

[Gareth79]

Hoofy said:

Tried to find out where exactly she placed it but failed. Mind you I couldn't be arsed to not speed read the article.

This one mentions it: https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/n...
"Haringey upheld the fine and notified her of fly tipping, and a picture was taken as evidence of the item which was allegedly causing an obstruction on the pavement."

It sounds like it was reusable, but as mentioned often people put things outside which are knackered - my neighbour put out an old children's plastic play set thing, it was very badly sun damaged and cracked and was fit for the bin. It was there weeks before disappearing, and now there's an electric lawnmower and LCD TV there (possibly a higher likelihood of them being taken, although they have been there for days now).

[Electro1980]

Sounds like she left it on the pavement, not in her front garden. If she wants to pass it on she could have put it on the local Facebook page or freecycle. She dumped it outside in the hope someone else would take it and she didn’t have to deal with it.