I know it's a Daily Mail report but for pity's sake!
I know it's a Daily Mail report but for pity's sake!
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motco

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17,387 posts

270 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Romeo and Juliet trigger warnings

For the love of God what is the world coming to? rolleyes Other news outlets corroborate.

chrispmartha

22,135 posts

153 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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What's the issue here?

There has been "if you have been affected by the content of this programme' on TV screens for years, is it really worth getting hot and bothered about?

If someone going to see this play decides to contact the Samaritans and it helps them isn't that a good thing?

Castrol for a knave

7,125 posts

115 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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It's the Mail - ste like that trades on manufactured outrage. It is in their interest to keep the readership in a permanent state of fear and apoplexy.


They say jump, you say "how high"?

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Do you get wound up by the warnings before a film?
There's no age restrictions at the Globe, so it might be prudent to warn of performances with certain content.
Speaking generally, of course.

Randy Winkman

20,990 posts

213 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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How does the Globe actually make these warnings? The only hard fact in The Mail's article is about the Globe's website. I'd say that's absolutely fine. But if someone stands up at the start of the performance and issues a warning I think it's a bit OTT.

Anyway, the article does give some good background info on Shakespeare but for some reason doesn't tell us how much his house was worth. frown

Gargamel

16,132 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Ultimate Irony really

I think the Bard himself wrote trigger warnings for at least one of his plays ..

“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
If you pardon, we will mend:
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.”

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Shirley if you were so affected by suicide you probably wouldn’t be attending anyhow. Or if the play was new to you , you would read the synopsis and go from there ? Or not lol.

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Gargamel said:
Ultimate Irony really

I think the Bard himself wrote trigger warnings for at least one of his plays ..
Excellent, thanks for that.
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motco

Original Poster:

17,387 posts

270 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
How does the Globe actually make these warnings? The only hard fact in The Mail's article is about the Globe's website. I'd say that's absolutely fine. But if someone stands up at the start of the performance and issues a warning I think it's a bit OTT.

Anyway, the article does give some good background info on Shakespeare but for some reason doesn't tell us how much his house was worth. frown
Telegraph

crankedup5

10,917 posts

59 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Just another example of free publicity for the production, nothing more to it. Far better than having to pay for advertising.

Randy Winkman

20,990 posts

213 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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motco said:
Randy Winkman said:
How does the Globe actually make these warnings? The only hard fact in The Mail's article is about the Globe's website. I'd say that's absolutely fine. But if someone stands up at the start of the performance and issues a warning I think it's a bit OTT.

Anyway, the article does give some good background info on Shakespeare but for some reason doesn't tell us how much his house was worth. frown
Telegraph
Sorry - not able to read that.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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It sounds like it's part of the literature for people visiting to watch it rather than someone going on stage and reading anything out.

I get why they do it these days but I also suspect it's aimed predominately at younger audiences (and I say that as someone who's only in their 40's).

230TE

2,506 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Do trigger warnings actually work (in terms of stopping people being triggered) or is it just lawyer-driven arse covering? I would say that if putting a trigger warning at the start of Romeo & Juliet is genuinely preventing people being harmed by it, our society really needs to look at what we are doing wrong to create a climate where people can be harmed by a Shakespeare play. Trigger warnings are just treating the symptoms rather than the cause.

chrispmartha

22,135 posts

153 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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230TE said:
Do trigger warnings actually work (in terms of stopping people being triggered) or is it just lawyer-driven arse covering? I would say that if putting a trigger warning at the start of Romeo & Juliet is genuinely preventing people being harmed by it, our society really needs to look at what we are doing wrong to create a climate where people can be harmed by a Shakespeare play. Trigger warnings are just treating the symptoms rather than the cause.
They aren’t giving warnings st the start of the play from what I have read, its just in the programme isn’t it?

It’s literally a non story designed to ‘trigger’ the easily ‘triggered’

Which is the irony of the story being about a trigger warning, maybe they should add n another section about being triggered about the trigger warning ;-)

Randy Winkman

20,990 posts

213 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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230TE said:
Do trigger warnings actually work (in terms of stopping people being triggered) or is it just lawyer-driven arse covering? I would say that if putting a trigger warning at the start of Romeo & Juliet is genuinely preventing people being harmed by it, our society really needs to look at what we are doing wrong to create a climate where people can be harmed by a Shakespeare play. Trigger warnings are just treating the symptoms rather than the cause.
I don't think that trigger warnings can ever treat the cause but I don't think it means they have no value..

Super Sonic

12,407 posts

78 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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I guess people have to have things to be angry and upset about.

Dogwatch

6,367 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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chrispmartha said:
They aren’t giving warnings st the start of the play from what I have read, its just in the programme isn’t it?

It’s literally a non story designed to ‘trigger’ the easily ‘triggered’

Which is the irony of the story being about a trigger warning, maybe they should add n another section about being triggered about the trigger warning ;-)
If it’s in the programme isn’t that a bit too late for nervous punters? yikes

andy_s

19,816 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Love people getting upset about people being upset about people being upset about synthetic upset about synthetic upset prevention.

InitialDave

14,364 posts

143 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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230TE said:
Do trigger warnings actually work (in terms of stopping people being triggered) or is it just lawyer-driven arse covering?
They're really just "hey, you should be aware that there's something in here which we think has potential to upset people".

It's not changing the content or sanitising anything, it's just a warning that if the subject is a sensitive one for you, you may want to prepare yourself mentally, or give it a miss.

For an example, just because it's the first thing I thought of, there are some episodes of Snowpiercer that have a warning at the start because they depict suicide. Very clear, slit-wrists-in-a-bathtub stuff.

Am I bothered? No. Did I need the warning? No. Did it impact me watching the story? No. So the warning has done me no harm.

Now, a coworker's relative killed himself not so long back, left behind a wife and kids, not great at all. Would having that warning help them not have something put in front of them that immediately dredged up very painful, recent memories, without warning, when they just wanted to watch a TV show?

Maybe. Hopefully.

The idea of a trigger warning is fine. It can help some people, without really getting in the way for others.

Those who read Daily Mail articles like this and let themselves get wound up about "snowflakes" need to have a bit of a think about things, and perhaps try and empathise more with other people. They're not tough and hardy, they're just tts.

And yes, Romeo and Juliet is extremely well known, but there's still a first time that everyone read or saw it.

crankedup5

10,917 posts

59 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Wondering when a ‘production’ will be sued for not giving a warning to its audience regarding its content.