Discriminatory Job Advert
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-5...
is it not better if potential applicants know exactly what the working culture is likely to be before they apply?
it is unfortunate that some employers do not consider that an applicant can still be a tremendous asset to their organisation without adhering to a 0900-1730 routine.
A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
Countdown said:
Imagine a 6th division club taking themselves that seriously.Probably pays £8 /hr
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I saw this on another thread and commented that I wonder if sometimes it's an attempt to be "motivational" that just goes really badly wrong.
Would someone really want to work somewhere that openly says "don't work for us if you want a life"?
Excellent point and a resounding No.Would someone really want to work somewhere that openly says "don't work for us if you want a life"?
Dromedary66 said:
Countdown said:
Imagine a 6th division club taking themselves that seriously.Probably pays £8 /hr
Companies should endeavour to work with staff as they will see much better outcomes and staff retention.
Tyre Smoke said:
I don't see a problem with that. It'll weed out all of those who think the weekend is 'family time'. To be honest, is anyone really going to apply who doesn't understand the needs of a football club?
I wonder what the actual job description included as obligations and deliverables. We have a GM at our sailing club but they are not required to work every weekend. Obviously weekends are when most activity occurs and World and National Championships of course
Nickgnome said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I saw this on another thread and commented that I wonder if sometimes it's an attempt to be "motivational" that just goes really badly wrong.
Would someone really want to work somewhere that openly says "don't work for us if you want a life"?
Excellent point and a resounding No.Would someone really want to work somewhere that openly says "don't work for us if you want a life"?
Can't say I know the football industry well enough but is a GM role at a minor club that much of a prestigious position I wonder?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I'm just thinking what a few of my "dream jobs" would be and what my reaction would be if one came up but they basically said "you belong to us" I guess.
Can't say I know the football industry well enough but is a GM role at a minor club that much of a prestigious position I wonder?
I know absolutely nothing of the soccer industry but expect the salary could still be £80K or so.Can't say I know the football industry well enough but is a GM role at a minor club that much of a prestigious position I wonder?
Nickgnome said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Why does it have to be a male manager?
It doesn't but one could be forgiven if one interpreted the advert as discriminatoryMy wife is more high flying than I am. I do the majority of school runs as there is no way she could and do her job. Works for both of us.
Nickgnome said:
it is unfortunate that some employers do not consider that an applicant can still be a tremendous asset to their organisation without adhering to a 0900-1730 routine.
A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
I think the Employer should be given the right to decide what hours they expect somebody to be available and not have to change the job requirements to fit the needs of an Applicant.A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
Nickgnome said:
Tyre Smoke said:
I don't see a problem with that. It'll weed out all of those who think the weekend is 'family time'. To be honest, is anyone really going to apply who doesn't understand the needs of a football club?
I wonder what the actual job description included as obligations and deliverables. We have a GM at our sailing club but they are not required to work every weekend. Obviously weekends are when most activity occurs and World and National Championships of course
Countdown said:
Nickgnome said:
it is unfortunate that some employers do not consider that an applicant can still be a tremendous asset to their organisation without adhering to a 0900-1730 routine.
A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
I think the Employer should be given the right to decide what hours they expect somebody to be available and not have to change the job requirements to fit the needs of an Applicant.A GM role will contain enough report writing, financial stuff and other general communication that can be carried out outside normal office hours to find a workaround.
Of course it could be read as being sexist as mostly women do the school run. Now if only it was mandated such things had to be shared equally.
The job description should be able to stipulate requirements. Too many employers still think that a rigd hour policy means the staff will deliver. In fact it can cause resentment and clock watching.
That employer will reduce the potential applicant pool enormously and entrench an outdated attitude to achieving success.
I speak as an now ex employer with several thousand staff across the UK and globally. Company now over 50,000 strong. We had basic core hours but still flexible but i still found sometimes I was telling staff to go home as they were working too late. If staff are engaged and happy they deliver so much more and make the company more profitable.
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
I was tongue in cheek there... But there are just some jobs that require a flexible approach to hours. It's just the way it is. And you think about the suitability of that career path if you want kids.
My wife is more high flying than I am. I do the majority of school runs as there is no way she could and do her job. Works for both of us.
That is great and as it should be. You get the benefit of more time with kids as well. Something I sadly missed.My wife is more high flying than I am. I do the majority of school runs as there is no way she could and do her job. Works for both of us.
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